- From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 10:47:13 +0000
- To: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>, Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-schema-course-extend@w3.org
- Message-ID: <56D967B1.7050401@hw.ac.uk>
I'ld like to go further than URIs and have the URIs resolve to some useful information (e.g. in SKOS), and I would like to be able to use Richards proposed EnumerationValue [1]. This would allow us to provide a meaningful URL and a textual value as a name. I suspect that the list of courseModes is finite but longer than the list we have at the moment. I also suspect that people will want to use local values as well as the core 'required' set. Finally I suspect that whatever we specify many people will just provide a text value. Going beyond a list of suggested text values may require some effort and discussion. There is a wiki page for how to specify mode of study or delivery, I invite anyone interested to edit it to provide definitions and add any values that may be missing. We can discuss any issues in this thread. Phil 1. https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/894 On 03/03/2016 21:50, Richard Wallis wrote: > I agree it would be good to use URIs to add some consistency. > > Potentially we could define an Enumeration set for these - online, > face-to-face, MOOC, distance learning, part-time, full-time - That > isif that that is the finite list. Alternatively if those values are > already defined somewhere with canonical URIs we could recommend their > use and show them in examples. > > As to ‘requiring’ them, that is probably to constraining for Schema.org. > > ~Richard. > > Richard Wallis > Founder, Data Liberate > http://dataliberate.com > Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis > Twitter: @rjw > > On 3 March 2016 at 18:54, Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com > <mailto:wes.turner@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I'll be the person to suggest that we should require URIs here. > > There will probably be translations (rdfs:label@en in MediaWiki > RDFa?), so I think consistent URIs would be preferable. (because i > believe Text fields to be less likely to work consistently with > faceting) > > On Mar 3, 2016 11:14 AM, "Phil Barker" <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk > <mailto:phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>> wrote: > > Hello, > I have modified the wiki page for this to reflect the > Course/CourseInstance naming > https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Mode_of_study_or_delivery > > There is a requirement to be able to identify the mode of > study which arises from the use case 1.6 (2.6, 9.6) "where > the searcher is concerned about the means of delivery, > e.g. wants to take a MOOC, wants to study at home by > distance learning, study online, study face-to-face." > > So: > > > *courseMode*, a property of CourseInstance with expected > type: text > > definition: The medium or means of delivery of the course, > or the mode of study. > > Suggested values: online, face-to-face, MOOC, distance > learning, part-time, full-time > > > Any objections? > > I think there are some terms in CEDS that we could include as > suggested values, see > https://ceds.ed.gov/element/001161 (Thanks Jim) > > Phil > > > On 24/02/2016 14:58, Phil Barker wrote: > > I hope this is a fairly straightforward use case > requirement to deal with. > > There is a requirement to be able to identify the mode of > study which arises from the use case 1.6 (2.6, 9.6) "where > the searcher is concerned about the means of delivery, > e.g. wants to take a MOOC, wants to study at home by > distance learning, study online, study face-to-face." > > Currently the closest property in the proposal is the > isVirtual indicator, which I think there was agreement > needed broadening. > > It is often difficult to separate mode of study from mode > of course delivery, e.g. a course is delivered online for > students who study online. > > Sometimes though there is a form of course delivery that > really needs to be highlighted. I think that MOOCs are an > example of this. We want people to be able to identify > courses delivered as MOOCs directly, without faffing > around with a combination of cost, enrolment requirements > and being online. > > How about: > courseMode a property of CourseOffering > definition: the medium of means of delivery of the course > or the mode of study. A CourseOffering may be a blend of > different modes, e.g. face-to-face and online. > expected type: text (*) > Suggested values: online, face-to-face, MOOC, distance > learning, part-time, full-time > > (* this is a prime candidate for external enumerations > with the suggested values as a default enumeration) > > Phil > > > -- > Phil Barker @philbarker > LRMI, Cetis, ICBL http://people.pjjk.net/phil > Heriot-Watt University > > Workflow: http://www.icbl.hw.ac.uk/~philb/workflow/ > <http://www.icbl.hw.ac.uk/%7Ephilb/workflow/> > > > > ----- We invite research leaders and ambitious early career > researchers to join us in leading and driving research in key > inter-disciplinary themes. 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