Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG

Hi Maria

This is how we are using Web Access Control in Solid [1]

https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec

Solid is actively developed, with regular (daily) meetings etc.

[1] https://github.com/solid/solid

On 23 November 2017 at 13:37, Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch> wrote:

> Dear Melvin, dear Tim,
>
> thank you for your attention. Here is the proposal with the effort
> estimates: http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_pr
> oposal.pdf
> I avoided concrete technical details and suggestions for WG formation,
> until I get a positive reply from the CERN management. As Tim knows, I've
> been submitting such proposals
> for a number of years but the dynamics here are complex...
>
> Thank you again!
> Maria
>
> On 23.11.2017 09:25, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>
>
>
> On 22 November 2017 at 16:31, Maria Dimou <Maria.Dimou@cern.ch> wrote:
>
>> Dear Melvin,
>>
>> just a kind reminder for the estimation of effort (meetings, paper
>> reviews) that the WebAC work requires from its participants. This is my
>> proposal http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_pr
>> oposal.pdf
>>
>
> Hi Maria, that document looks great! :)
>
> I mentioned this to TimBL (cc'd), who remembers you at CERN :)
>
> The web access control work is actively used in software development with
> various projects.
>
> The interaction is regularly, weekly or daily, but tends to be in places
> such as chat rooms (e.g. gitter) and github (issues), in addition to
> mailing lists and wikis.
>
> The wiki is largely complete and ready to implement, which is what many of
> us are doing.
>
> In terms of a formal working group, Tim did say we could possibly fire up
> a quick working group if needed, tho that would require a number of
> independent implementations.
>
> I'd be happy to provide further data points in terms of usage, if you can
> give me an idea of what you're looking for and/or what would be helpful
>
> Hope that helps! :)
>
>
>>
>> Thank you
>> Maria
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Maria Dimou [maria.dimou@cern.ch]
>> *Sent:* 16 November 2017 17:15
>> *To:* Melvin Carvalho
>> *Cc:* public-rww
>> *Subject:* Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG
>>
>> Thank you Melvin. This is very useful. Open data is open:-D but we have
>> other applications with access control. Is the work finalised or does W3C
>> propose technical changes that become standards? In order to have any
>> chance for my proposal to be considered by the CERN IT management, I need
>> to know whether WebAC involves people still meeting, writing, reviewing...
>> to understand how much time/effort is required from the developers for this
>> standardisation work (if this work is still on-going).
>>
>> Thanks very much for your help!
>>
>> yours
>>
>> Maria
>> On 16.11.2017 16:56, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 November 2017 at 15:51, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 November 2017 at 13:36, Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I wrote a proposal to include CERN Open Data <http://opendata.cern.ch/> <http://opendata.cern.ch/>
>>>> developers in the WebAC W3C WG and need to quantify this involvement.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please tell me what it means in terms of members' involvement
>>>> (f2f or video conf. meetings, email activity, co-authoring, reviewing
>>>> papers etc)?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much in advance
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Maria, thanks for the question.  Perhaps this is posted to the wrong
>>> list?
>>>
>>> I dont know what the WebAC W3C WG is?
>>>
>>
>> Ah I see, you mean ?
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl
>>
>> WG I understood as Working Group.  We dont have a W3C Working Group (that
>> im aware, there might be one tho!)
>>
>> If you mean editing the wiki, anyone is free to do so, so please go
>> ahead! :)
>>
>> Any more insights on the cern open data set.  Does it have access control?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Maria Dimou / CERN
>>>>
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>>>> Maria Dimou             maria.dimou@cern.ch     http://cern.ch/dimou
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>>>
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