Re: Early Prototype -- Web App Market

On 29 August 2012 09:54, Scott Wilson <scott.bradley.wilson@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 29 Aug 2012, at 08:30, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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> On 29 August 2012 08:32, 전종홍 <hollobit@etri.re.kr> wrote:
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>>  Hi Melvin Carvalho,  ****
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>> Web Application Store CG already have been formed in W3C. ****
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>> I think it would be good to discuss together what is the future of open
>> web application store.
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> Thanks for the pointer, I joined the list!
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> Look forward to working with you on this. :)
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> As timbl pointed out in this weekend's keynote.  I think a starting point
> would be that apps need to have a URL, to be "on the Web".  Then we can
> collate the meta data of compliant apps, then build bridges to apps/widgets
> that use specific markup.
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> Welcome Melvin!
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> We also cover packaged web apps - that is web apps that are portable and
> can be hosted anywhere and so don't have a canonical URL. Packaged apps
> contain their own metadata in a manifest file, and a URI for an identifer.
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Thanks for the response.  I've had a bit more time to look at this, now.

Sure, it's possible to have data without a URI, but giving an app a URI
elevates it to becoming a first class citizen of the Web.  We can handle
both cases, but where it's possible to add a URI it makes life that much
easier.  The reason is that you can share the link, bookmark it, search and
index it, annotate it, add follow your nose discovery etc.


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> However, conceptually its the same thing - for a hosted app, you would
> probably interrogate the site for the metadata, whereas for a packaged app
> you read the included manifest when you install it locally.
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> As long as the metadata is close enough semantically, you can do a
> reasonable job of putting both kinds of app in the store (hence the
> discussions on webapps about making sure the metadata in the Mozilla
> proposal for hosted app manifests is consistent with W3C packaged web apps
> (aka Widgets)).
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> There is also a bit of a grey area I keep coming across, which is apps
> that are normally considered hosted, such as OpenSocial apps, but don't
> have a canonical URL as they are also portable and can be rehosted. I've
> talked about this a bit with some OpenSocial folks - it may be a case of
> giving these kinds of gadgets a URI identifier, and/or packaging them us as
> W3C widgets for transport and installation.
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I guess an easy start would be to know what kind of semantic market I need
in order to start cataloging examples apps, so that I can showcase some of
the existing ones we have in the RWW group.  Do we have a minimal list of
fields to get started?


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>> *From:* Kingsley Idehen [mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:14 AM
>> *To:* public-rww@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Early Prototype -- Web App Market****
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>> On 8/28/12 3:26 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:****
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>> Now that the RWW is starting to have social systems based on Web
>> Standards (REST, HTTP, Linked Data) I thought it would be a good idea to
>> have a place holder for apps that can be deployed to the Web.
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>> The three advantages of this are:****
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>>    - Showcase some existing apps****
>>    - Allow users to add more functionality to their social experience****
>>    - Add payment technology so that authors can be incentivized more****
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>> I've started an early prototype for these two which I'll be fleshing out
>> over time.****
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>> http://webappmarket.org/****
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>> This is a non commercial open website, donated to the community.  It's
>> based on wordpress to show a portfolio of apps.  And also the payswarm
>> wordpress plugin as a proof of concept for payments.  Currently payments
>> are working with the dev payswarm authority.
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>> There are many app markets out there today, ****
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>>    - Ubuntu app market ****
>>    - IOS App market ****
>>    - Android app market ****
>>    - Microsoft app merkt ****
>>    - Facebook app center ****
>>    - OpenSocial ****
>>    - Twitter apps ****
>>    - app.net ****
>>    - Chrome app store ****
>>    - Mozilla app store ****
>>    - 5apps ****
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>> To name a few.  The hope is to make, via HTML5 and the Open Web Platform
>> a growing ecosystem which will be the intersection of app markets.****
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