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AccessControl : update + inference

From: Jürgen Jakobitsch <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:52:59 +0100
To: "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
Message-ID: <1352757179.5241.35.camel@linux-1rgw.site>
hi,

since the discussion on AC is apparently taking shape, it might be a
good time for my questions.

until now we more or less only had examples of AC in action on the
data-retrieval side (as far as i know at least).

do acl-engines only really work with inference-engines when updating or
are there recommended ways of dealing with the following example?

prereq.: acl - denies access to resource "x" (say a skos:Concept)

what should happen, when i add the triple?

resource "y" skos:broader resource "x"?


there are several scenarios in which this could take place :

1. should the update request be rejected with full inferencing, because
it becomes clear the resource "x" is touched?
2. what happens in a non-inferencing environment? with that is created a
relation between the two resources and i could construct (sparql-wise)
whatever i want, which brings me to the idea of never trusting
application/sparql-results+*...


so the crucial point seems to be that ACLs can handle updates more
flexible, a read and write access denied for a single resource might not
be enough.

any pointer to the most flexible acl-ontology? 
i'm thinking about something like :

denyWriteAccess where resource "x" is the object.

any pointer really appreciated..

wkr turnguard





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