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Re: Interesting Identity & Privacy Presentation

From: Markus Sabadello <markus.sabadello@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:16:02 +0100
Message-ID: <CAJF45PSWshWpHrsP9Er6yVUpH4NSQLBccDMKTstfpq8YG2VWCg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
Kaliya has been running the semi-annual Internet Identity
Workshop<http://internetidentityworkshop.com/>for a long time.
At each of these workshops, at least one person typically comes up with a
session titled "What is Identity" or similar.
Also at each of these workshops, there are always LOTS of sessions on (very
diverse) technical approaches to "do identity" on the Internet.
So over the years, Kaliya's been exposed to many different ways of thinking
about online identity, on the business, legal and technical levels.

If you want to "drill down into the details" and "build systems that have
consistent behaviour", then that's valuable, but you immediately commit
yourself to certain assumptions which not everybody would agree with.
E.g. you may commit to a worldview that all online identity things are best
done with Linked Data and WebID, which is great, because it's so tightly
based on core web principles, and decentralized, and etc.
But it's not the only way to do identity online, over the years there have
been so many different approaches.

So I believe Kaliya's intention behind this presentation was indeed to
remain on a high enough level to still say interesting things about
identity on the Internet, without making commitments to any specific "this
is how you do it".

Markus

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>wrote:

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> On 7 November 2012 23:39, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
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>>  On 11/7/12 5:19 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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>> On 7 November 2012 22:55, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
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>>> All,
>>>
>>> FYI:
>>> http://www.slideshare.net/Kaliya/identity-and-context-people-and-personal-data.
>>>
>>
>> Yes excellent presentation.
>>
>> Still slightly difficult to nail down what is meant by identity.
>>
>>
>> Identity is a moniker for nebulous entities like "You" :-)
>>
>> An identifier denotes an entity.
>>
>> A document can describe an identity via content (e.g., an RDF graph
>> pictorial) where attribute=value pairs coalesce around the description
>> subject's identifier i.e., what you see in a FOAF based profile document.
>>
>
> Sure, but what I meant that the presentation is well put together, but
> high level stuff.  You need to drill down into the details to build systems
> that have consistent behaviour, which was what I found slightly missing
> from the slides.
>
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>>
>> Kingsley
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kingsley Idehen
>>> Founder & CEO
>>> OpenLink Software
>>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>>> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
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>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen	
>> Founder & CEO
>> OpenLink Software
>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
>> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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