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Re: What is a WebID?

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 04:06:40 +0100
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhLSQix2K4VUu=qpycxaiMHPKaoqrNpnjZoJtnBtz3Mx=Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at
Cc: "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
On 3 November 2012 22:40, Jürgen Jakobitsch <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>wrote:

> hi,
>
> i just read the whole discussion that led to this "definition" of a
> webID. if i wouldn't have missed it, i would have opposed it with a
> "minus a zillion".
>
> "A WebID is a hash HTTP URI which denotes an Agent. You can GET an RDF
> model as TURTLE"
>
> linked data is all about borderless data io and putting such things into
> a spec is the first brick in the wall (when thinking consequent and
> algorithmic)
>

the URI is borderless data in that it is a reference of universal power

other systems are a specific form

>
> what if the payment wg (fictional) says : a transactionID  is a non-hash
> uri, you can get an rdf model as rdf+xml
>

so what?


>
> and the next group does the same with another form of uri and another
> serialization...
>

it is consistent but maybe not universal


>
> what about all other forms of uris (non-hash, mailto:, urn:uuid)...
> think about your fridge logging into the next supermarket and shop for
> you, it will most probably have a unique identifier (uuid).
>

it's a uri that's fine


>
> think about your home alarm device that needs to authenticate to call
> the police or send notification, will it have a hash http uri?
>

sure


>
> what about the public key? if this makes it to the spec do i have to
> conclude that every hash-http-uri (with rdf:type foaf:Agent) is a webID?
> does a webID need a public key?
>

henry wanted this but we decoupled auth from identity, so no

it's just naming


>
> it is sad to say, but if this definition makes it to spec i do not have
> a valid webID anymore and i'm certainly not going to change my webID
> (with which i have signed a million mails) to a hash-uri. furthermore my
> promotion for webID will stop immediately until the community comes to
> terms with kant's categorical imperative
>

so hard to add # to the end of your webid?  is there a problem that?


>
> "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time,
> will that it should become a universal law." [1] (know the difference
> between interface and impl)
>
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>
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative
>
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