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Re: Signed Email WebID

From: Jürgen Jakobitsch <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:09:28 +0200 (CEST)
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: public-rww@w3.org
Message-ID: <168bb2a0-0045-43a1-a6b4-29cb42346bf9@zcs>
ok,

i think sending signed email is not really the problem,
i think every one of us should manage to get this done.

however, at least for me the problem is :

how can i (as a normal user) create a certificate that is trusted
by a common ca authority with a webID.

or the other way round : i have a valid (from a ca authority) certificate 
how do i get a webID in there..

the problem comes to light, when you sign your emails with a certificate
created with any of the webID generators and most clients 
will say that this signature is not valid.
i only have evolution and thunderbird at hand, but i assume the outlook and co. will also complain.

i'd really like to sign my mails and have absolutely no problem with it, but
i'm not gonna do it, when i must assume that 90% of the recipients see some sort
of warning, that i'm sending untrusted mails...

wkr j

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
To: public-rww@w3.org
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:50:28 PM
Subject: Re: Signed Email WebID

On 7/16/12 3:44 PM, Henry Story wrote:
> On 16 Jul 2012, at 19:35, Jürgen Jakobitsch wrote:
>
>> hi,
>> thanks for input...
>>
>> just had a try with a cert created at my-profile..
>>
>> when opening an email, signed with said cert, there's a big red bar
>> at the bottom of evolution with a broken cert icon.
>> when i click on it, it says
>>
> Could be because my-profile needs to enable some of the magic x509 things, such
> as e-mail signing options.

Henry,

You should configure your mail client of choice such that you can send 
signed emails. This exercise is crucial to WebID bootstrap, no matter 
how you look at it. Thus, I encourage you to start sending signed emails 
based on certs. with WebID watermarks :-)

Kingsley
>> Signer: SWC Juergen Jakobitsch <<unknown>>: Signing certificate not trusted
>>
>>
>> hm... turnguard
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Henry Story" <henry.story@bblfish.net>
>> To: "Jürgen Jakobitsch" <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>
>> Cc: public-rww@w3.org
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 7:21:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Signed Email WebID
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jul 2012, at 19:15, Jürgen Jakobitsch wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> concerning kingsley's last mail.
>>>
>>> i stopped signing my mail, because i didn't figure out
>>> how to create a NOT-self-signed certificate with a webID.
>>>
>>> gnome evolution and thunderbird showed them as broken
>>> and i didn't want to scare people.
>>>
>>> is there a standard way of creating a NOT-self-signed  certificate
>>> with a webID, without installing heaven and hell?
>> Well I think if you make one on my-profile.eu, you get a not self signed
>> certificate. Any system that uses keygen will tend to create non-self signed
>> certs...
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>>> any pointer really appreciated.
>>>
>>> wkr turnguard
>>>
>>> --
>>> | Jürgen Jakobitsch,
>>> | Software Developer
>>> | Semantic Web Company GmbH
>>> | Mariahilfer Straße 70 / Neubaugasse 1, Top 8
>>> | A - 1070 Wien, Austria
>>> | Mob +43 676 62 12 710 | Fax +43.1.402 12 35 - 22
>>>
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>>> PERSONAL INFORMATION
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>>> | skype     : jakobitsch-punkt
>>> | xmlns:tg  = "http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard#"
>>>
>> Social Web Architect
>> http://bblfish.net/
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> | Jürgen Jakobitsch,
>> | Software Developer
>> | Semantic Web Company GmbH
>> | Mariahilfer Straße 70 / Neubaugasse 1, Top 8
>> | A - 1070 Wien, Austria
>> | Mob +43 676 62 12 710 | Fax +43.1.402 12 35 - 22
>>
>> COMPANY INFORMATION
>> | web       : http://www.semantic-web.at/
>> | foaf      : http://company.semantic-web.at/person/juergen_jakobitsch
>> PERSONAL INFORMATION
>> | web       : http://www.turnguard.com
>> | foaf      : http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard
>> | g+        : https://plus.google.com/111233759991616358206/posts
>> | skype     : jakobitsch-punkt
>> | xmlns:tg  = "http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard#"
> Social Web Architect
> http://bblfish.net/
>
>
>
>


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-- 
| Jürgen Jakobitsch, 
| Software Developer
| Semantic Web Company GmbH
| Mariahilfer Straße 70 / Neubaugasse 1, Top 8
| A - 1070 Wien, Austria
| Mob +43 676 62 12 710 | Fax +43.1.402 12 35 - 22

COMPANY INFORMATION
| web       : http://www.semantic-web.at/
| foaf      : http://company.semantic-web.at/person/juergen_jakobitsch
PERSONAL INFORMATION
| web       : http://www.turnguard.com
| foaf      : http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard
| g+        : https://plus.google.com/111233759991616358206/posts
| skype     : jakobitsch-punkt
| xmlns:tg  = "http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard#"
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