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Re: Proposal: Web Federation Protocol

From: Markus Sabadello <markus.sabadello@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:33:33 +0200
Message-ID: <CAJF45PR+Jg8q-U_n_PRTZobdDkrubrPO6Nhwikt+mnzRCy3GiQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Cc: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
Good idea..

I think there would be several topics..
1. "Federation" in the sense of basic decentralized linking: HTML
Hyperlinks, Linked Data.
2. "Federation" in the sense of notifying parties that they have been
linked, or that something has changed: Pingback.
3. "Federation" in the sense of pushing the actual changes:
OStatus/Pubsubhubbub, Google Wave. Maybe also OData and XDI.

I wonder if it would be possible to apply Pubsubhubbub to Linked Data.
By that I mean that a subscriber to a Linked Data document would receive
updates with actual changes to that document, rather than simply being
notified that "something has changed" .
Do you know of any technology that can do this, i.e. push Linked Data
changes to a subscriber?
In this post <http://blog.superfeedr.com/pubsubhubbub-0-4/>, it is argued
that Pubsubhubbub should support arbitrary content.

Markus

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Melvin Carvalho
<melvincarvalho@gmail.com>wrote:

> There seems to be a few 'Federation' Protocols out there.
>
> Two of which are:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OStatus
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave_Federation_Protocol
>
> Much of the discussion that goes on today in various project is oriented
> around how it's possible to make heterogeneous systems Federate.
>
> So I was thinking about proposing working on a document something along
> the lines of:
>
> 'The Web Federation Protocol'
>
> The document could contain some of the "deceptively simple" federation
> protocols that we have working in the wild, such as linked data and
> pingback.  In particular, if we can get others to implement pingback (which
> is normally less than a day's work), we can quickly develop an internet
> wide messaging system.
>
> Some of you might think, 'that's missing the point the Web is already
> federated via the URI (hyperlink) ', and there's certainly plenty of
> evidence to support this.
>
> However, to date I'm not sure there exists a very good explanation, for
> those that are trying to get a better understanding of the Web.
>
> Maybe we could put together a narrative, primer, or wiki article, to show
> how the Read Write Web is already federated, and how it's possible to take
> advantage, embrace and extend?
>
> Good idea / Bad idea ... any thoughts?
>
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