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Re: Using Twitter as an IdP space for WebID

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:24:46 -0400
Message-ID: <4EAEE7EE.8060406@openlinksw.com>
To: public-rww@w3.org
On 10/31/11 11:12 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> Hello Kingsley,
> I just discovered that the WebID wiki (http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebID) seems to
> support your position of calling your idea a WebID: "A WebID is a way to
> uniquely identify a person, company, organization, or other agent using a URI.
> One direct use of this concept is the protocol known as foaf+ssl...".
> Maybe the draft at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/ should
> reflect this...
>>> If twitter does not use the #this hashtag to identify a
>>> person
>>> or account, you should not do it.
>> Sorry, I don't agree.
> Here, we stay in disagreement.

Okay, but you will ultimately see where I am coming from. For instance, 
you are in way inferring that the following statement can't existing in 
a graph hosted in my data space:

<http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this> foaf:knows 
<mailto:brunni@netestate.de> .
<mailto:brunni@netestate.de> owl:sameAs 
<http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this> owl:sameAs 
<http://twitter.com/kidehen#this> .

You cannot tell people what claims to make in their own data spaces. 
Misconceptions of this nature are what's lead to the 12+ odyssey re. 
Semantic Web vision comprehension, appreciation, and adoption. The game 
is never about:

1. telling people what they can or cannot do in their own data spaces .
2. mandating a global ontology .
3. constraining underlying data model to a specific syntax .

I am making statements in my own data space (or that of a specific agent 
e.g., a WebID protocol compliant relying agent) that are the basis of 
inference in said data space en route to providing value that may or may 
not be utilized by others. Everything is optional, and that's the only 
way it can be.

The beauty of URIs is that the WWW (in its 1.0 and 2.0 dimensions) has 
already generated millions (if not billions) of globally unique 
identifiers that are http: scheme based, so lets put them to use without 
getting all draconian about matters.

> Regards,
> Michael Brunnbauer



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