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Re: rif:text / owl:internationalizedString

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:01:45 +0200
Message-ID: <4874FD09.8010200@w3.org>
To: Jie Bao <baojie@cs.rpi.edu>
CC: public-rif-comments@w3.org, public-owl-wg@w3.org, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@deri.org>


Jie Bao wrote:
> Thanks, Ivan
> 
> My understanding is that you propose to vote among rif, owl or a new
> namespaces. 

That is indeed my opinion (but there have been objections to my opinion 
since..)

>             Who will "toss a coin" - the OWL people, the RIF people,
> or both?

In my opinion the coin should be tossed together, so to say (I am not 
sure how:-). More seriously: this is planned to be a 'joint' document, 
ie, such decision should be done together...

Ivan


> 
> Jie
> 
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>> Thank Jie a lot.
>>
>> One option you put forward is to add _INTERNATIONALIZEDSTRING_ to the rdf
>> namespace. While this indeed looks as the most natural fit, the way the RDF
>> Semantics is formulated[1] is by explicitly listing the RDF vocabulary,
>> including the only datatype that RDF introduces (namely rdf:XMLLiteral). Ie,
>> from a very formal point of view, _adding_ a new term to that namespace
>> might be a bit messy; does it belong to the formal RDF vocabulary per RDF
>> Semantics or not? We may want to keep away from that. [3] seems to say that
>> the XML Schema group ('guardians' of the xsd namespace), is not really in
>> favour of the xsd namespace.
>>
>> Looking at your options this leaves, in my view, with the rif or owl
>> namespaces, which may have to be decided through the toss of a coin:-).
>> Another alternative is to define a completely separate namespace for extra
>> RDF stuffs, but I am not sure that is nice...
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#InterpVocab
>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/InternalizedString
>> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2008May/0162.html
>>
>> Jie Bao wrote:
>>> As been suggested by Sandro, due to the closeness of rif:text and
>>> owl:internationalizedString, the two working groups might have a joint
>>> effort on combining the two constructs. There is an initial draft for
>>> the specification of internationalized strings in the both two
>>> languages. Comments are welcome.
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/InternationalizedStringSpec
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jie
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Jie Bao <baojie@cs.rpi.edu> wrote:
>>>> I have put some scratch for the internationalized string document at
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/InternalizedString
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Jie
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>> The recommendation from the Semantic Web Coordination Group on this
>>>>> matter of a new datatype [1][2] is to proceed with the single, small
>>>>> Recommendation.  It's not clear what namespace to use, yet, but
>>>>> hopefully it will become clearer soon.   (I'm leaning towards using the
>>>>> XML Schema namespace, if that WG will consent.)
>>>>>
>>>>> So -- any volunteers, from either RIF or OWL to be an editor of this
>>>>> document?  Ideally, I'd like one from each WG, since it's not clear yet
>>>>> which WG will formally carry it through the process.  For an example of
>>>>> a very short Rec, see [3].
>>>>>
>>>>>   -- Sandro
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2008May/0060
>>>>> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2008May/0021.html
>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/1999/06/REC-xml-stylesheet-19990629/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> --
>>
>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html
>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
>>

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Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf


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