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From: Toby Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 22:29:30 +0000
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:48:01 +0000
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To: tai@g5n.co.uk,www-archive@w3.org
Subject: [wbs] response to 'ISSUE-118 Specification breaks semantics of
existing link relations "index" and "first"  - Straw Poll for
Objections'



The following answers have been successfully submitted to 'ISSUE-118
Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and
"first"  - Straw Poll for Objections' (HTML Working Group) for Toby
Inkster.



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Objections to the Change Proposal to Create a well founded consolidation
of the link types
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We have a Change Proposal to change some link types to their pre-HTML5
meaning, but also change some other link relations to be synonyms and
consolidate the set overall. If you have strong objections to adopting
this Change Proposal, please state your objections below.
Keep in mind, you must actually state an objection, not merely cite
someone else. If you feel that your objection has already been
adequately addressed by someone else, then it is not necessary to
repeat it. Objections: 
No objections.




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Objections to the Change Proposal to Simplify the incumbent rel="" model
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We have a Change Proposal to simply some link relations relative to
HTML4. If you have strong objections to adopting this Change Proposal,
please state your objections below.  Keep in mind, you must actually
state an objection, not merely cite someone else. If you feel that your
objection has already been adequately addressed by someone else, then
it is not necessary to repeat it.
Objections: 
Strong objection.

This changes the definitions of rel values (especially rel=index) from
HTML4, introducing differences between how it's defined in HTML5 and how
it's defined virtually everywhere else (HTML4, XHTML 1.x, RDFa and the
IANA link registry).

The proposal cites a single implementation as justification for the
change. While I grant that this implementation is a major one, given
that it's just one implementation, a small patch could bring it into
line with the rest of the world. Wordpress has a history of security
problems, so many of its users upgrade on a very frequent basis. Thus,
if new releases of Wordpress were brought into line with the semantics
of other implementations, data published using old releases would
quickly diminish to insignificance.

Wordpress also has a history of using outputting fairly good,
semantically correct HTML. Thus if clear guidelines on which rel values
are synonymous, which differ, and how they all should be used were
included in the HTML5 specification, such as the guidelines summarised
in the first change proposal, it seems likely that Wordpress'
developers would be amenable to accepting such a patch.




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Objections to the Change Proposal to Drop support for certain rel=""
values
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We have a Change Proposal to drop support for certain rel entirely,
based on lack of interest from users and implementors. If you have
strong objections to adopting this Change Proposal, please state your
objections below.
Keep in mind, you must actually state an objection, not merely cite
someone else. If you feel that your objection has already been
adequately addressed by someone else, then it is not necessary to
repeat it. Objections: 
Weak objection.

These semantics seem useful enough to keep in the specification.


These answers were last modified on 9 December 2010 at 11:47:38 U.T.C.
by Toby Inkster

Answers to this questionnaire can be set and changed at
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-118-objection-poll/ until
2010-12-16.

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