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Re: RDFa and Web Directions North 2009

From: Michael Bolger <michael@michaelbolger.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:15:38 -0800
Message-ID: <4995484A.4090809@michaelbolger.net>
To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Cc: public-rdfa@w3.org, RDFa mailing list <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>

i wrote;
 >In my opinion, a street level view;
 >The likes of Ivan, Karl, Doug, many W3C others, are doing an 
outstanding job, thank you.
 >HTML 5, was created out of a deep pool of frustration, poor leadership 
from the top people at the W3C, nothing has changed.


This was a "street level" view, not a view from the "Ivory Tower".
"to join the battle"
(battle; "to work very hard or struggle; strive")

To join


Dan Brickley wrote:
> +cc: Sam Ruby, TimBL, DanC
>
> On 13/2/09 10:27, Michael Bolger wrote:
>
>> Friends of XHTML, are seeing a train wreck, the same "old" W3C
>> "hero-worshiped" "leadership" does nothing of any substance to join the
>> battle. HTML 5 has won by default.
>>
>> Who, Where? is the top representative from the W3C in the html5/xhtml5
>> process.
>>
>> Marketing RDFa? Get someone to lead the effort in the html5/xhtml5
>> battle before it is over.
>
> This is not a battle.  Battles kill people. It is a dispute amongst 
> technologists who have varying assumptions, backgrounds, collaboration 
> networks and agendas, and who are slowly learning to see each other's 
> perspective.
>
> Please (and I am very serious here) stop using such bloody metaphors 
> to describe what should be a civil and mutually respectful 
> collaborative process. You will not improve anything if you foster 
> this kind of perspective on our shared problems. Battle talk results 
> in a battle mindset. I do not want to hear any RDFa advocates talking 
> in such terms.
>
> Really, enough with the battle stuff. Go find someone who works on 
> HTML5 and be nice to them, find common ground, try out their tools.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dan
>
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