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Re 2: Should @datetime generate a plain literal with language?

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:39:34 +0100
Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, RDFa WG <public-rdfa-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <AAC851E0-38AE-4BA2-BF20-5D211E2AA34E@w3.org>
To: Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>
By the way: this is a bit of an edge case. If somebody uses, as a content, "Lundi, le 4 mars 2012", this will not abide to any formal datetime type, but it may make a lot of sense to add a @fr to this information! Ie, it is not that clear cut.

As far as I remember the attitude was that if somebody uses a value whose content we cannot interpret, we should not cut back on this!

B.t.w., I believe this comment is relevant for the HTML5+RDFa document and not for RDFa Core. It is up to the HTML5+RDFa document to introduce new processing rules or exception for HTML5 specific attributes and elements, and datetime is clearly one of those...

Ivan

On Mar 11, 2012, at 11:35 , Ivan Herman wrote:

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> On Mar 11, 2012, at 05:43 , Stéphane Corlosquet wrote:
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>> 3.1 Additional RDFa Processing Rules includes this:
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>> a plain literal must be generated with the associated language of the node, if available.
>> 
>> I don't remember the discussion (was there any?) where the language bit was discussed. but considering that the content of @datetime is most likely machine readable data (even if not one of the xsd types), I'm not sure it would be localized. My gut feeling is that it should just be a plain literal with no language. Is there a reason here to have a language?
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> I think there was a discussion. Unfortunately, my memory is failing and so I do not remember. Maybe somebody else does; if not, we should make some forensics on the minutes...
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> Ivan
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>> the next step for @value for example does not include such language consideration.
>> 
>> Steph.
>> 
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>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
>> A new HTML+RDFa 1.1 heartbeat working draft has been prepped for release
>> for this coming Thursday.
>> 
>> The document is here:
>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/rdfa/drafts/WD-rdfa-in-html-20120315/
>> 
>> Diff-mark from the previous LCWD is here:
>> 
>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/rdfa/drafts/WD-rdfa-in-html-20120315/diff-20110525.html
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>> This document includes substantitive changes and will thus require a
>> second Last Call.
>> 
>> -- manu
>> 
>> -- 
>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny)
>> President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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>> http://digitalbazaar.com/2012/02/22/new-payswarm-alpha/
>> 
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