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Fwd: URL/URI/IRI resolution in HTML5/RDF/RDFa

From: Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:28:30 +0000
Cc: HTML Data Task Force WG <public-html-data-tf@w3.org>
Message-Id: <F8DE604D-2516-4373-949B-992593B30A79@jenitennison.com>
To: RDFa WG <public-rdfa-wg@w3.org>
Hi,

Just so you're aware, I outlined the issues around URLs/IRIs in HTML+RDFa on the TAG mailing list [1] and got this response back from Martin Dürst, which he asked me to forward to interested parties. There were also responses from Julian Reschke and Larry Masinter which might be worth taking a look at.

If you (the RDFWAWG) want any help putting together issues for the IETF IRI WG then let me know; I'm quite happy to do that as part of the HTML Data TF work.

Cheers,

Jeni

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Nov/0003.html

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: www-tag@w3.org
> From: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
> Subject: Re: URL/URI/IRI resolution in HTML5/RDF/RDFa
> Date: 3 November 2011 06:41:00 GMT
> To: Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>
> Cc: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, "www-tag@w3.org List" <www-tag@w3.org>
> 
> Hello Jeni,
> 
> Can you please forward the information below to the RDFa WG and other relevant parties?
> 
> On 2011/11/03 3:07, Jeni Tennison wrote:
>> Larry,
>> 
>> On 2 Nov 2011, at 17:30, Larry Masinter wrote:
>>> " This behaviour by HTML5 was the subject of a long-running issue [4], which I believe Larry was involved in, which was eventually resolved to give the specification we see today."
>>> 
>>> The IRI/HTML5 issue is still being worked on actively.
>> 
>> Ah right. What's the HTML issue or bug and what's the current status?
> 
> The IETF IRI WG's mailing list is hosted by the W3C at
> public-iri@w3.org.
> 
> Archives and subscription instructions are at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/.
> 
> Joining the WG is done by joining the mailing list, and there are no minimal time commitments, although any kind of contribution and help is appreciated.
> 
> The list of documents, charter, and so on, can be found at
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/iri/.
> 
> More information can be found on the tools page at
> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/iri/.
> 
> The list of issues can be found at
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/iri/trac/report/1
> 
> I very strongly suggest that you enter a new issue/new issues for the topic of RDFa in HTML. While these will be related to the generic HTML issues, they are not the same.
> 
> To enter issues, you need a login, which you can obtain from http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/loginmgr/newlogin.
> 
> 
>>> " The RDFWAWG has opened rdfa-ISSUE-114 on this [10] which is on their agenda for discussion tomorrow. Do we have any advice for them?"
>>> 
>>> My advice is that they make sure their requirements for IRI standards are clear and to get them accepted by the IETF IRI working group, which is chartered to develop a solution that meets the broader requirements not only for browsers (HTML5) but for other applications that need IRIs that have nothing to do with HTML except for the possibility of copy/paste.
>> 
>> 
>> I think that RDFa is only interested in IRIs because RDF is and RDFa wants to support all RDF.
> 
> Well, RDF allows IRIs (and not just URIs) because this can often be very handy, e.g. in ontologies in languages that are written with non-ASCII characters,... The same applies to RDFa.
> 
> Regards,    Martin.
> 
> 

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Jeni Tennison
http://www.jenitennison.com
Received on Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:31:54 GMT

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