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Re: Updating RDFa Core

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:29:00 +0100
Message-ID: <AANLkTinPAYNaQo6evt21kcBfLmY72Wo8ZhpyA64bGb84@mail.gmail.com>
To: Gregg Kellogg <gregg@kellogg-assoc.com>
Cc: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>, RDFa WG <public-rdfa-wg@w3.org>
Hi Gregg,

I hadn't had a chance to look at the original, so thanks for spelling
everything out.

All of your suggestions are good, and a couple of further
abbreviations we could add would be to:

* move the @rel for editors up to the <dl>, requiring only one @rel;
* move the @typeof for people up to the <dd> removing the need for the
extra <span>.

The structure would therefore look like this:

  <dl rel="bibo:editor">
    <dd typeof="foaf:Person">
      .
      .
      .
    </dd>
    <dd typeof="foaf:Person">
      .
      .
      .
    </dd>
    .
    .
    .
  </dl>

Regards,

Mark


On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Gregg Kellogg <gregg@kellogg-assoc.com> wrote:
> A couple of other comments on RDFa form:
> It was my understanding that http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/ is deprecated
> and http://purl.org/dc/terms/ is upwards compatible, that the "official"
> prefix to use would be "dc: http://purl.org/dc/terms/ " rather than
> "dcterms:". I certainly am not an expert, but in Section 2, you use dc: as
> the prefix. It would be odd to use dc: in the body of the document and
> dcterms: in the RDFa prefix mappings.
> The editor markup can be simplified by removing all BNode definitions (using
> typeof to create a BNode) as shown in the following:
>
> <dl>
>   <dd rel="bibo:editor">
>     <span typeof="foaf:Person">
>       <span property="foaf:name">Ben Adida</span>,
>       <a rel="foaf:workplaceHomepage"
> href="http://creativecommons.org">Creative Commons</a>
>       <a rel="foaf:mbox" href="mailto:ben@adida.net">ben@adida.net</a>
>     </span>
>   </dd>
>   <dd rel="bibo:editor">
>     <span typeof="foaf:Person">
>       <span property="foaf:name">Mark Birbeck</span>,
>       <a rel="foaf:workplaceHomepage"
> href="http://webBackplane.com">webBackplane</a>
>       <a rel="foaf:mbox"
> href="mailto:mark.birbeck@webBackplane.com">mark.birbeck@webBackplane.com</a></span>
>   </dd>
>   <dd rel="bibo:editor">
>     <span typeof="foaf:Person">
>       <a rel="foaf:homepage" property="foaf:name" content="Shane McCarron"
> href="http://blog.halindrome.com">
>         Shane McCarron
>       </a>,
>       <a rel="foaf:workplaceHomepage" href="http://www.aptest.com">
>         Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
>       </a>
>       <a rel="foaf:mbox" href="mailto:shane@aptest.com">shane@aptest.com</a>
>     </span>
>   </dd>
>   <dd rel="bibo:editor">
>     <span typeof="foaf:Person">
>       <span property="foaf:name">Ivan Herman</span>,
>       <a rel="foaf:workplaceHomepage" href="http://www.w3.org/">W3C</a>
>       <a rel="foaf:mbox" href="mailto:ivan@w3.org">ivan@w3.org</a>
>     </span>
>   </dd>
> </dl>
>
> Copyright/License can also be simplified, as follows:
>
> <p class="copyright">
>   <a href="http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/ipr-notice#Copyright"
> rel="license">Copyright</a>
>   © 2007-2010
>   <span rel="dcterms:publisher">
>     <span typeof="foaf:Organization">
>       <a href="http://www.w3.org/" rel="foaf:homepage" content="World Wide
> Web Consortium" property="foaf:name">
>         <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">
>           W3C
>         </acronym>
>       </a>
>       <sup>®</sup>
>     </span>
>   </span>
>   (<a href="http://www.csail.mit.edu/">
>     <acronym title="Massachusetts Institute of Technology">MIT</acronym>
>   </a>,
>   <a href="http://www.ercim.eu/">
>     <acronym title="European Research Consortium for Informatics and
> Mathematics">ERCIM</acronym>
>   </a>,
>   <a href="http://www.keio.ac.jp/">Keio</a>),
>   All Rights Reserved. W3C
>   <a
> href="http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/ipr-notice#Legal_Disclaimer">liability</a>,
>   <a
> href="http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/ipr-notice#W3C_Trademarks">trademark</a>
>   and
>   <a href="http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-documents">document
> use</a>
>   rules apply.
> </p>
>
> Also, there should be foaf:Organization for MIT, Keio and ERCIM, unless
> they're not considered publishers.
> Gregg
> On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Shane McCarron wrote:
>
> I have gone through the current source for RDFa Core and ensured that
> all of the resolutions are reflected in it.  Manu wrote the section on
> Error processing and that is included as well.  I decided to 'publish'
> an updated Editor's draft just for fun.
>
> There is an editor's draft at
> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/drafts/2010/ED-rdfa-core-20100705
>
> This version reflects our first attempt at getting RDFa embedded in the
> document.  This is done automatically via the ReSpec.js tool, so if I
> made major errors in the triples that I picked, it is easy to fix.  I
> couldn't have done this without a ton of advice from Manu over many
> hours this holiday weekend.  Thanks!
>
> There are also a handful of triples embeded manually.  These use the
> bibo:affirmedBy predicate to connect changes in this version back to the
> resolutions in our minutes.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
> --
> Shane P. McCarron                          Phone: +1 763 786-8160 x120
> Managing Director                            Fax: +1 763 786-8180
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>
>
>
>
>
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