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Re: @cite (was: longdesc URLs and RDFa(

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 03:52:15 +0200
To: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
Cc: Toby Inkster <mail@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, public-rdfa-wg@w3.org
Message-ID: <20100818035215102252.3beb768c@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Having looked at the source code of that spec, I guess that was my 
model as well. If @cite was to be interpreted as a subject, then - if 
there were many quotes from the same source one the same page, in 
different blockquote or q elements, then they would all belong to the 
same subject. And that would perhaps not be the typical intent. So I 
think I'm back on the  track, for now ... 

If one mean to have more direct quoting/embedding, then one can use 
<iframe/> or <object/> (once @data is supported ...) ... 

Leif

Shane McCarron, Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:11:04 -0500:
> In the RDFa Core spec we use bibo:affirmedBy to associate a subject 
> in the document with an object elsewhere. My mental model for cite 
> was like that. 
> 
> "Leif Halvard Silli"
> 
>> Toby Inkster, Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:49:58 +0100:
>>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:50:41 +0200
>>> Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>>> 
>>>> <blockquote id="q1" about="#q1" rel="cite" 
>>>> resource="urn:ISBN:0140449132"/>  
>>> 
>>> This question on semanticoverflow seems relevant:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
http://www.semanticoverflow.com/questions/1198/how-to-express-a-book-quote-into-rdfahtml-use-cases
>> 
>> And one of the answers on that page:
>> 
>> <blockquote about="urn:isbn:978-0-521-51385-2" 
>> cite="urn:isbn:978-0-521-51385-2">
>> 
>> Here one could claim that you draw a parallel between @cite and @about 
>> - it is a subject. My thinking has been that if RDFa gets native 
>> support for @cite, then it should treated like @href and @resource.
>> 
>> However, perhaps it is you who are on the right track here: @cite can 
>> be seen as a semi-embedding of the quoted source. In that way it can 
>> been seen as similar to @src - the @src defines a subject.
>> 
>> Comment?
>> -- 
>> leif halvard silli
> 
> -- 
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