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Re: Language tags as values - document consequences (Concepts and MT)

From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:39:35 -0500
Cc: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
Message-Id: <D540CBBB-1743-4B16-8971-49C92C55016F@ihmc.us>
To: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>

On May 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote:

> I think the consequences for treating language tags as values or as lower case string in the value space are:
> Concepts:
> 1/ Remove ", and must be normalized to lowercase."
> 2/ Put in, after 5.1, a datatype description for rdf:langString.
> I think this should go in anyway so that concepts has more on rdf:langString.
> 3/ Add rdf:langString as a to section 5.4 as recognized Datatype IRI.
> MT:
> 4/ Remove requirement for rdf:langString.
> MT currently says that RDF processors "MUST recognize rdf:langString and xsd:string".
> Instead, RDF processors are not required to recognize any datatype IRIs.

I like that, but please can we have a DECISION on this quickly, as it would need a major edit to Semantics. (It would make it a lot simpler. It is really a host of minor edits which I can do in one day.) 

Also, we still need to decide whether or not "Ilovelanguagefivehundred"@500^^rdf:langString  is just silly, or an ill-formed literal, or a syntax error. Its going to be a probem for someone, for sure, but if its ill-formed then it is a problem for me.


PS. For the record, built-in (required) datatypes are a royal PITA for the Semantics editor. rdf:XMLLiteral was a PITA in 2004 and xsd:string and rdf:langString are a PITA now. In Semantics they are like heavy sacks that you have to keep strapped to your belt all the time because regulations say you must, but all they do is get in the way and trip you up when you are in a hurry. But thats just from the editor's point of view. 

> This licenses current systems.
> Recognizing xs:string is about bad characters in the lexical form.  This isn't what all systems do for, say, control characters.

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