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Re: RDF-ISSUE-108 (xsd-valuespaces): Semantics should reference "XML Schema Datatypes in RDF and OWL" [RDF Semantics]

From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:09:49 -0800
Cc: RDF Working Group <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <2D080CA3-C089-4D69-9D8D-B2E5D03AC166@ihmc.us>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>

On Nov 12, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Ivan Herman wrote:

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> On Nov 12, 2012, at 12:34 , Pat Hayes wrote:
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>> +1. I will ensure that this is done. One slight issue might be that the SWBP document references "RDF Semantics" referring to the 2004 standard, which differs in critical ways from what we will be saying (especially with regard to plain literals values.) If all these references are normative, we will have a normative chain of reference from our specs to the 2004 specs. I guess we will have to work around this using careful and often rather tedious prose. 
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> First of all, just to be pedantic, the SWBP document is a Note, ie, there is no normative chain here. However, I think it is worth adding a "footnote" (whatever this means here, probably a parenthetical remark in the text) drawing attention to this.

OK, will do of course. I am relieved that there isnt a normative self-reference paradox looming.

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> But my question is: are the statements in the SWBP document still valid with XSD 1.1? I had a very cursory look, and I did not see any problem, but it is worth checking (and I am at a conference, ie, I did not have the time to look at this thoroughly)

I will check this also. Sigh.

Pat

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> Cheers
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> Ivan
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>> Ivan, any advice on how to proceed on this issue?
>> 
>> Pat
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2012, at 2:44 AM, RDF Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
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>>> RDF-ISSUE-108 (xsd-valuespaces): Semantics should reference "XML Schema Datatypes in RDF and OWL" [RDF Semantics]
>>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/108
>>> 
>>> Raised by: Richard Cyganiak
>>> On product: RDF Semantics
>>> 
>>> RDF Semantics section 5 (Interpreting Datatypes), or whatever the equivalent section is in the new document, should contain an informative reference to the section "Comparison of Values" of "XML Schema Datatypes in RDF and OWL"
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>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-xsch-datatypes/#sec-values
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>>> Another reference to the same section would be appropriate near the definition of entailment rule rdfD3.
>>> 
>>> The SWBP document has a good and practical discussion of the relationship of the various XSD datatype value spaces, including how they relate to SPARQL, and thus is a valuable background reference for the discussion of datatype interpretations.
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