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Re: RDF Semantics Editors Draft?

From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:02:59 +0100
Cc: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>, Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, public-rdf-wg WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <83216A12-30EF-487E-8D16-780C58A06D1F@cyganiak.de>
To: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>
On 4 May 2012, at 13:27, David Wood wrote:
>> For 4), the document as it stands doesn't work at all, and it can't, because that's not its purpose. In fact, when newbies try reading this document, it's pretty much guaranteed to end in disaster. I think we all agree that this is *not* the document you should be looking at in your first encounter with RDF. There isn't *too* much we can do about this, but I think that a title that is a bit scarier to newbies could help. Can we put something like “model theory” or “formal representation logic” into the title?
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> This problem could be solved easily with the insertion of some language in the introduction pointing to the Primer in the first paragraph (instead of just the Vocab and Concepts, as it does now).

I agree that some work on the Abstract and first few paragraphs of the document could be sufficient to help readers in finding the parts (possibly none) that they should read. I'm happy to propose edits once we have an ED.

Best,
Richard



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> Regards,
> Dave
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>>> Of course, if the WG wants to make RDF no longer be a formal representational logic, then ....
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>> I thought RDF is a data model?
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>> Best,
>> Richard
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>>> peter
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>>> On 04/25/2012 11:27 AM, David Wood wrote:
>>>> Hi Peter and Pat,
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>>>> The RDF WG briefly discussed the need for an RDF Semantics editors draft at today's telecon.  I am aware that there are a lot of open issues and therefore hard to produce a draft, but perhaps it makes sense to have a single document that lists the issues in one place.
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>>>> In any event, we would like to discuss this at next week's telecon if you can make it.  Thanks.
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>>>> Relevant comments from IRC (no log published yet since the meeting isn't over):
>>>> [[
>>>> ivan: one thing that came up early was discussion to change title of RDF Semantics document, reorganize to make the rules normative and deemphasize the model-theoretic semantics AlexHall @ 11:20
>>>> ... think it's a good thing to do but huge amount of editorial work AlexHall @ 11:20
>>>> cygri: is there an editors draft of RDF Semantics yet? 11:21
>>>> [no] 11:21
>>>> cygri: given that there are larger changes to the doc, would feel better if there were an editors draft by now. 11:21
>>>> guus: suggest we should put it on the agenda for next week
>>>> ]]
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>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
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