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Re: Graph terminology in spec text.

From: Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:07:14 +0100
Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, public-rdf-wg@w3.org
Message-Id: <B78345BB-BE49-4A33-92CE-21F53F57C213@garlik.com>
To: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>
On 2011-07-21, at 11:52, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> 
> On 21/07/11 09:40, Dan Brickley wrote:
>> On 21 July 2011 09:27, Andy Seaborne<andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>  wrote:
>>> On 21/07/11 01:08, Ian Davis wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We recognise that "graph" has subtly different semantics
>>>> between sparql and rdf concepts so let's avoid that term.
>>> 
>>> It would be helpful to if you could point to text in the SPARQL specs that
>>> leads to that conclusion.  It should be changed because a graph is value and
>>> used as such in SPARQL, both in query and update.  As such , the changes are
>>> editorial and not a cause for a SPARQL second last call.
>> 
>> If the terminology can be unified and 'graph' kept in our technical
>> vocabulary, there are significant benefits for RDF.
>> 
>> The word 'triple' seems to alienate many people, whereas the wider
>> tech scene is lately abuzz with all kinds of talk of 'graphs':
>> 
>>  - the social graph
>>  - interest graphs
>>  - graph databases
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> I have found that drawing graphs (= nodes and arcs) helps explain "linking" to people.  Turtle, laid out as records, sometimes does not make the connection that using the URI again elsewhere is the connection (arc, triple) usage. This use of "graph" seems to work for most.

+1

Though I've said things like "yeah... a graph in the mathematical sense, not as in a chart" more time than I care to count :)

- Steve

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