Re: ShEx questionnaire (was Re: RDF validation questionnaire)

> the working group would get the most value if the questionnaire was
> expressed in terms of SHACL.

I'm afraid the current situation makes this impossible given that as Peter 
pointed out the WG has yet to adopt any proposal and SHACL is therefore 
currently undefined.
--
Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web Technologies - 
IBM Software Group


Irene Polikoff <irene@topquadrant.com> wrote on 04/15/2015 12:06:04 PM:

> From: Irene Polikoff <irene@topquadrant.com>
> To: <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, <public-rdf-shapes@w3.org>
> Date: 04/15/2015 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: ShEx questionnaire (was Re: RDF validation questionnaire)
> 
> That is true, but since Eric is the W3C Lead for the SHACL/RDF Shapes
> Working Group and the first public drafts for SHACL start to become
> available and the e-mail mentions the RDF Shapes Working Group, it is 
easy
> for the recipients to become confused.
> 
> There is a timing dimension to this. Six months ago such questionnaire
> would make sense in helping to inform the group and it could even be 
done
> for all member submissions that served as input to SHACL, but right now
> the working group would get the most value if the questionnaire was
> expressed in terms of SHACL.
> 
> 
> Irene 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/15/15, 2:45 PM, "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote:
> 
> >I read Eric's mail as not being about SHACL at all, but about work 
being
> >done elsewhere that members of this group might inform. His note was
> >also posted to the DCMI list that is discussing application profiles,
> >which overlaps with this W3C group but is not the same. A questionnaire
> >for SHACL has not be proposed, AFAIK.
> >
> >kc
> >
> >On 4/15/15 11:30 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
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> >> I am rather disappointed that the questionnaire is so tied to ShEx,
> >> particularly considering the subject of the email that went out.
> >>
> >> As far as I am concerned the only information that the working group
> >>will be
> >> able to take away from the questionnaire is what people think should 
be
> >> included in ShEx.  This may have very little to do with what should 
be
> >> included in SHACL.
> >>
> >> peter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/15/2015 10:09 AM, Eric Prud'hommeaux wrote:
> >>> In some Mayo grant work, I have prepared a questionnaire on the
> >>> expressivity of shape expressions. It presents a high-level language
> >>>for
> >>> expressing RDF constraints, explains a number of the technical 
points,
> >>> and asks the user for which features and technical approaches are
> >>> important to their work and their view of what will make the 
language
> >>> successful. There are a couple places where you can click for extra
> >>> geekiness, in case the baseline geekiness was insufficient.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like people to fill out the form imagining their immediate uses 
for
> >>> RDF validation as well as those that may come with new markets 
enabled
> >>>by
> >>> the existence of such RDF validating tooling. The form will record 
your
> >>> results whenever you hit submit so you can easily revisit your 
answers
> >>> after reflection.
> >>>
> >>> This work is supported in part by a NIH U01 grant ­ caCDE-QA
> >>> (1U01CA180940-01A1).
> >>>
> >>> On the top of my game here... here's the link:
> >>> http://www.w3.org/2015/ShExpressivity
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> >-- 
> >Karen Coyle
> >kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
> >m: 1-510-435-8234
> >skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
> >
> 
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