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Re: dbpedia lite

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 06:33:50 +0200
Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Nicholas Humfrey <nicholas.humfrey@bbc.co.uk>, public-lod@w3.org, public-rdf-ruby@w3.org
Message-Id: <309084BC-8D31-4954-B260-D4738F6D19B1@w3.org>
To: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>

On May 17, 2010, at 05:38 , Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Ivan Herman wrote:
> 
>> I also tried
>> 
>> curl -i -H "Accept: text/turtle" http://dbpedialite.org/things/52780
>> 
>> and it said: unsupported format: text/turtle
>> 
>> (text/turtle is the media type defined in [1])
>> 
>> But when running the RDFa distiller (or any similar service) on the URI, regardless of media type, the content is correct.
> 
> 
> Did you try any of the other curl commands I provided?

No, I believe you!:-)

> 
> I continue to get the same results when I test... which is to 
> say, success or failure is determined by the first listed MIME 
> type, with no impact from quality ratings, nor from the fact 
> that application/xhtml+xml appears in every request and *is* 
> supported.
> 
> The tools you've tested succeeded ... but that tells us nothing 
> of whether the server is behaving properly, nor whether it will
> deliver success to any other tools.
> 

Absolutely. The only thing it says is that the content is fine, it does not say anything about the server behaviour, which seems to have problems indeed.

I.




> Ted
> 
> 
>> Ivan
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/turtle/
>> On May 14, 2010, at 21:43 , Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Nick --
>>> 
>>> On May 14, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nicholas Humfrey wrote:
>>>>> There is RDFa already there for the Thing pages. Is there something missing?
>>>>> Is it Void type stuff that you want me to add to the RDFa? 
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm, I get:
>>>> http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/dbpedialite.org/things/52780
>>>> 
>>>> Which returns:
>>>> Unable to retrieve RDF data from "http://dbpedialite.org/things/52780": HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Something seems to be broken in the dbpedialite.org server's
>>> content negotiation.
>>> 
>>> Try these curl commands (which should all get the same output -- 
>>> I'm not changing any values, just the order of the MIME types) --
>>> 
>>> curl -i -H "Accept: application/rdf+xml; q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml; q=1.0, text/rdf+n3; q=0.8, application/rdf+turtle; q=0.7, application/x-turtle; q=0.6, application/turtle; q=0.5, application/xml; q=0.2, */*; q=0.1" http://dbpedialite.org/things/52780
>>> 
>>> curl -i -H "Accept: text/rdf+n3; q=0.8, application/xhtml+xml; q=1.0, application/rdf+xml; q=0.9, application/rdf+turtle; q=0.7, application/x-turtle; q=0.6, application/turtle; q=0.5, application/xml; q=0.2, */*; q=0.1" http://dbpedialite.org/things/52780
>>> 
>>> curl -i -H "Accept: application/rdf+turtle; q=0.7, application/xhtml+xml; q=1.0, application/rdf+xml; q=0.9, text/rdf+n3; q=0.8, application/x-turtle; q=0.6, application/turtle; q=0.5, application/xml; q=0.2, */*; q=0.1" http://dbpedialite.org/things/52780
>>> 
>>> curl -i -H "Accept: application/x-turtle; q=0.6, application/xhtml+xml; q=1.0, application/rdf+xml; q=0.9, text/rdf+n3; q=0.8, application/rdf+turtle; q=0.7, application/turtle; q=0.5, application/xml; q=0.2, */*; q=0.1" http://dbpedialite.org/things/52780
>>> 
>>> curl -i -H "Accept: application/xhtml+xml; q=1.0, application/rdf+xml; q=0.9, text/rdf+n3; q=0.8, application/rdf+turtle; q=0.7, application/x-turtle; q=0.6, application/turtle; q=0.5, application/xml; q=0.2, */*; q=0.1" http://dbpedialite.org/things/52780
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Note that the result for each is based on the first MIME type in
>>> the list -- no matter that it supports a later listed type, nor
>>> that a later listed type has a higher quality rating -- and that
>>> all but the last gets an error.
>>> 
>>> Be seeing you,
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> A: Yes.                      http://www.guckes.net/faq/attribution.html
> | Q: Are you sure?
> | | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
> | | | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
> 
> Ted Thibodeau, Jr.           //               voice +1-781-273-0900 x32
> Evangelism & Support         //        mailto:tthibodeau@openlinksw.com
>                             //              http://twitter.com/TallTed
> OpenLink Software, Inc.      //              http://www.openlinksw.com/
>        10 Burlington Mall Road, Suite 265, Burlington MA 01803
>                                 http://www.openlinksw.com/weblogs/uda/
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> 
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