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Re: Telecon Agenda - Thursday 22 October 2009, 1500 UTC

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:41:57 +0200
Message-ID: <4AE028E5.605@w3.org>
To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
CC: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
I am sorry to act as a new kid on the block. I am one, after all, as far
as this group is concerned:-)

I would like to have a clear agreement of what _this_ group wants to
achieve. If we are talking about errata, that is one thing. But some of
the issues in this list heading for an updated recommendation, some sort
of an RDFa 1.1, because it definitely adds functionality. Although each
of us prefers to have discussions on the technical contents, we have to
have a clear decision on what can be realistically achieved in the
remaining two months that this group is chartered for, and what are the
possibilities and plans for beyond that.

And to be more blunt: I do not believe it is realistic to plan for an
RDFa1.1 for this WG. As I said on the RDFa API thread, with the
publication path to follow, with a CR, ie, implementation requirements,
etc, the remaining 2 months is simply not enough.

Again, much I would prefer to dive into the technical discussions, well,
we have to talk about formalities...

Sorry:-)

Ivan

Mark Birbeck wrote:
> Hi Manu,
> 
> I was going to flag up some of the work items that I think we need to
> be keeping an eye on, and also suggest an order of priority.
> 
> The first is that @typeof="" should generate a bnode. I think we
> discussed this, and even agreed an errata, but I can't find the
> reference, so I thought I'd better raise it again.
> 
> Second is the use of 'URIs anywhere'; I think this is important for
> the consistency of RDFa, and would also allow anyone who doesn't like
> using CURIEs, or who wants to publish 'self-contained' markup snippets
> that don't have prefix mappings, to do so.
> 
> After that, I think the discussion about a technique for bundling
> tokens is next. That has been called the @profile discussion, but of
> course that might not be the way to do it. But whatever we decide on,
> I think this is important work for some of the people that are
> starting to define vocabularies for authors to use, such as Yahoo!,
> Google, the Good Relations vocabulary, and so on.
> 
> And then finally, the DOM API; I do think we need to do this, but I
> think it comes lower down the list than these other things.
> 
> I'm proposing this list, so that each week, as we have our calls, if
> there is any time left for features and design, we can make sure that
> we allocate the discussion in order of agreed priority. So this is my
> list -- does anyone else have such a list? And does anyone want to
> disagree with the suggested order?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
> --
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have a telecon tomorrow, the agenda is below. Please review and
>> add any items that you feel need to be discussed.
>>
>> ==========
>> Thursday, October 22nd, 2009
>> 1500 UTC, W3C Zakim bridge
>> tel:+1.617.761.6200 conference code RDFA
>> irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#rdfa
>> Duration: 60 minutes
>> Scribe: Zakim, pick a victim
>> ==========
>>
>> Agenda:
>>
>> 1) Action Items
>> http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
>>
>> 2) Discuss and approve Shane's errata text
>>   * Reserved word values and case-sensitivity[1]
>>   * Updated errata on XMLLiteral values and canonical XML
>>
>> 3) 9 new Unreviewed XHTML Test Cases
>>   * http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/
>>   * TCs: 134, 140, 142, 147, 154
>>
>> -- manu
>>
>> [1]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Oct/0010.html
>>
>> --
>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny)
>> President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> blog: The Pirate Bay and Building an Equitable Culture
>> http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2009/08/30/equitable-culture/
>>
>>
>>
> 

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