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Re: Telecon Agenda - November 12, 2009, 1600 UTC

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:16:22 +0000
Message-ID: <640dd5060911120716u7577a3f7h7435e7bea4186ba0@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Cc: RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Hi Manu,

I'm afraid I still disagree with the priorities here, for the reasons
explained at [1] and [2].

Whilst some kind of vocabulary extension is of course important, as
far as I know the only substantial criticism that has been levelled at
RDFa is its requirement to use CURIEs/prefix mappings, and so I think
we should really put some effort into addressing that.

Fixing this would be low-hanging fruit, for us.

It simply requires us to agree on how we allow full URIs in @rel,
@rev, @property, @typeof and @datatype.

(I had a full proposal at [3], which seemed to be supported on the
list. Toby had an issue with how my proposal related to  existing eRDF
content, using the example of "dc:creator" -- but this might be
incorrect, because as far as I can see, eRDF uses dots not colons.)

I realise that Hixie would prefer to have no prefix mappings at all in
RDFa, but I think that horse has bolted.

But I do think that providing support for full URIs, so that authors
at least have the choice of whether to use prefixes or not, would go a
long way towards answering his criticism.

And it's not as if the feature isn't useful, either; when using small
'packets' of RDFa, such as on one or two elements, it's often more
convenient to provide the complete URI, and not bother at all with
prefix mappings.

Regards,

Mark

[1] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Oct/0045.html>
[2] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Oct/0050.html>
[3] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jul/0062.html>

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We have a telecon in 1.5 hours, let's try to get a game plan together on
>  implementing an experimental @vocab extension for extending the list of
> reserved words.
>
> ==========
> Thursday, November 5th 2009
> 1500 UTC, W3C Zakim bridge
> tel:+1.617.761.6200 conference code RDFA
> irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#rdfa
> Duration: 60 minutes
> Scribe: Zakim, pick a victim
> ==========
>
> Agenda:
>
> 1) Action Items
> http://www.w3.org/2009/11/05-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
>
> 2) RDFa WG charter updates (short - 10 minutes)
>
> 3) @vocab discussion
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny)
> President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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> http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2009/09/28/a-digital-content-commerce-standard/
>
>
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