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Re: meeting record: 2009-01-08 RDF-in-XHTML TF telecon

From: Sergey Chernyshev <sergey.chernyshev@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:21 -0500
Message-ID: <9984a7a70901111807v6b641527t7adf206494004255@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Michael Hausenblas" <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Cc: "Toby A Inkster" <tai@g5n.co.uk>, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Toby, Michael,

Thanks for the links - I'll definitely take a look. I also agree with
Michael that general introduction is important indicating very minor
differences and huge benefits ;)

More over, I feel that it's quite important to have pages like these:

   - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard
   - http://microformats.org/wiki/reltag
   - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar
   - http://gmpg.org/xfn/11
   - .. and the rest

that explain in detail how to create such pages, with all the details, how
to test if work is done properly (which luckily is easier with RDFa, I
believe) and so on.

I think it's quite important to do this kind of baby-sitting in this case,
as this data is a basis for the SW.

I think that we always look at RDF(a) being generic approach and don't pay
enough attention in describing simple use cases in detail and that's what
needs to be addressed.

I'm really interested in helping with this work.

          Sergey


On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Michael Hausenblas <
michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:

>
>
> Toby, Sergey,
>
> As this is my long-standing action I feel I'll throw in my 0.02 ...
>
> > Take a look at:
> > http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Microformats_in_RDF
>
> This was my proposal at the call as well :)
>
> However it turned out that we need some more details, that is, not only the
> mapping per se (or only) but rather (i) a general introduction, that is,
> what are the differences, how to prepare when transitioning, etc. and (ii)
> a
> per-uF explanation how to actually move from, say, hCard to RDFa+vCard.
>
> I'd be more than happy if you wanna chime in and help shaping this general
> introduction, maybe continuing at [1].
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> [1] http://rdfa.info/wiki/RDFa-for-microformats-users
>
> --
> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
> National University of Ireland, Lower Dangan,
> Galway, Ireland, Europe
> Tel. +353 91 495730
> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>
>
> > From: Toby A Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:11:25 +0000
> > To: RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
> > Subject: Re: meeting record: 2009-01-08 RDF-in-XHTML TF telecon
> > Resent-From: <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
> > Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:12:13 +0000
> >
> >
> > Sergey Chernyshev wrote:
> >
> >> the next question is which set of RDF ontologies to use
> >> to replace specific Microformats.
> >
> > Take a look at:
> > http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Microformats_in_RDF
> >
> > Another thing you could try is writing a page using the microformat
> > in question, running it through <http://buzzword.org.uk/swignition/
> > try> and seeing what RDF is generated. For example, Tantek Celik's
> > homepage uses a mixture of hCard, hCalendar, hAtom and XFN. The
> > result in N3 <http://srv.buzzword.org.uk/n3/tantek.com/> includes the
> > following prefixes:
> >
> > @prefix awol:     <http://bblfish.net/work/atom-owl/2006-06-06/#> .
> > @prefix foaf:     <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> .
> > @prefix hcterms:  <http://purl.org/uF/hCard/terms/> .
> > @prefix i:        <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/ical#> .
> > @prefix ix:       <http://buzzword.org.uk/rdf/icalx#> .
> > @prefix plink:    <http://buzzword.org.uk/rdf/personal-link-types#> .
> > @prefix tag:      <http://www.holygoat.co.uk/owl/redwood/0.1/tags/> .
> > @prefix v:        <http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/ns#> .
> > @prefix vx:       <http://buzzword.org.uk/rdf/vcardx#> .
> > @prefix xfn:      <http://vocab.sindice.com/xfn#> .
> >
> > (Amongst others.)
> >
> > --
> > Toby A Inkster
> > <mailto:mail@tobyinkster.co.uk>
> > <http://tobyinkster.co.uk>
> >
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Sergey Chernyshev
http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
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