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Re: RDFa Primer comment

From: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:46:13 -0500
Message-ID: <487E17C5.1090603@aptest.com>
To: Michael Bolger <michael@michaelbolger.net>
CC: "public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf.w3.org" <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>



Michael Bolger wrote:
> Shane McCarron wrote:
> >This is a W3C effort, and the W3C has not defined that behavior
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> Not to be a "smart as_",  shouldn't they have finished that already?
Finished what already?  No one is charged with defining RDFa in terms of 
HTML.  I suppose someone could suggest a formal W3C work item, or submit 
a proposal as a Note or something, but until there is a formal task no 
standards organization is going to just do something - there's plenty of 
other work to do.

And for what its worth, we are "they".
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> Shane McCarron wrote:
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>> While I agree that it is physically possible... there is no profile, 
>> it is not valid, it requires the use of XML Namespaces, etc.  It is 
>> not something that the HTML community would ever have agreed to.  You 
>> parsers might swallow it, but that doesn't mean it is something we 
>> should encourage.  This is a W3C effort, and the W3C has not defined 
>> that behavior.
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>> Jeremy Carroll wrote:
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>>> On 16 Jul 2008, at 06:21, Shane McCarron wrote:
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>>>> This is a global comment - if you need more specifics I can do that 
>>>> but I hope this will be good enough.  The Primer talks about HTML.  
>>>> That's very very bad.  We don't define anything for HTML.  
>>>> Anywhere.  Misleading people into thinking they can annotate their 
>>>> HTML 4 documents with RDFa is not good for 2 reasons.
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>>> They can; it is not misleading.
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>>> (I am not trying to grind an axe here ... merely reporting that, for 
>>> example, both Jena's support and TopQuadrant's support for RDFa 
>>> starts off by applying tidy to the input which means that HTML 4 
>>> docs get converted into XHTML and everything works at a practical 
>>> level - it might not be chapter and verse conformant, but it is 
>>> practically useful)
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>>> Jeremy
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