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Re: [RDFa] ISSUE-2: custom attributes for RDF shorthand

From: Ben Adida <ben@adida.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:05:53 -0700
Message-ID: <46780CF1.8050004@adida.net>
To: mark.birbeck@x-port.net
CC: RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>, SWD WG <public-swd-wg@w3.org>


Mark,

I agree that if another host language has inherent semantics, we should
find ways to let these semantics be expressed in RDFa. So let's leave
that discussion to RDFa+XHTML2, as you correctly suggest.

-Ben

Mark Birbeck wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> 
> I don't have a problem with not supporting this feature now, but there
> is no need to rule it out for the future.
> 
> The aim of the feature is not to provide a shorthand, but to provide
> rules for parsing something that may already exist in some given
> language. (The idea of 're-use' does not need to be solely about
> inline mark-up, but can also be regarded as giving semantic meaning to
> _any_ already existing mark-up.) Obviously at the moment there is
> nothing like this in HTML/XHTML, so we don't really need it, but when
> you start importing things from other namespaces, it is a very useful
> feature. For example, if you created an HTML/XHTML profile that used
> the P3P attribute, you would want to make something meaningful from
> @p3p11:p3p.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 19/06/07, Ben Adida <ben@adida.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a "list of easily resolvable issues." We want to resolve these
>> ASAP, using email preferably. In other words, please respond ASAP with
>> your opinion on this. I encourage you all to consider that we need to
>> not change or complicate the XHTML1.1+RDFa specification too much
>> anymore.
>>
>> This email concerns ISSUE-2. A separate followup email will be sent for
>> each remaining issue. Since ISSUE-2 is not very well documented in the
>> tracker, I'll summarize it here:
>>
>> there was a proposal to allow for attribute shorthands for certain
>> hidden triples, e.g:
>>
>> <div about="/foo/bar" dc:title="Foo Bar">
>> ...
>> </div>
>>
>> which would yield
>>
>> </foo/bar> dc:title "Foo Bar"
>>
>> Mark, jump in if I've described this incorrectly.
>>
>> I propose that we *not* implement such a feature in XHTML1.1+RDFa. My
>> main argument is for simplicity and not having two ways of doing the
>> same thing.
>>
>> (I'm even tempted to say that XHTML2+RDFa shouldn't have it, either,
>> given that it starts to break away from the whole point of reusing
>> rendered data as structure. But that discussion doesn't need to happen
>> today.)
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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