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Re: Determination of subjects/objects (was: ISSUE-42)

From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:15:55 -0400
Message-ID: <46AE0EBB.3040905@digitalbazaar.com>
To: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org

Mark Birbeck wrote:
> I haven't had a chance to re-read this thread, so I'm not going to say
> anything on the substance. But if you don't mind, I'd like to comment
> on a recurring theme, which seems exemplified by the following:
>> I have a visceral problem with about="_:", and that is that it makes
>> bnodes explicit, which I really don't want to do to HTML authors. That's
>> just too much RDF.
> I don't see the need to 'protect' authors who are not familiar with
> RDF from RDF constructs that they will never use. If someone from the
> RDF community thinks this is useful, and _if_ we can support it
> without it getting in the way, then why not?

Constructs such as "_:" are scary to non-RDF folks. :) From a
historically RDF-unaware perspective (mine), I stared at the "_:"
construct and had no idea what it does. It is not very intuitive.

Even having seen it, I haven't taken the time to look up what it means.
It will probably make sense when I do, but to somebody that is not
trained in CS/EE/ECE/etc., this is a scary construct. To the lay web
page author, it is syntactic gibberish.

There is already a very strong feeling in the Microformats community
that RDFa is far too complicated for most web page authors. The last
thing most of them want to learn is yet another language syntax for
describing what they see as "corner-cases of the language".

I see your argument: If they aren't going to use it, and if it doesn't
cause any harm, then why not put it in there?

I would argue that you shouldn't put things in there that aren't
absolutely necessary. It complicates the RDFa specification. If there is
a need in the future, you can always add it in a later revision.

-- manu

Manu Sporny
President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
DB Blog: Bitmunk Blazes Path in Film and TV
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