RE: [RDFa] ISSUE-8: RDF containers in RDFa

Ben,

Did you take into account 'RDF features covered by RDFa (RiR)' [1], yet?
I know, the description on this page is a bit terse and
might need some more explanations ...

The main finding of [1] is:

'... the only requirements - stemming directly from 
 the RDF Graph Model - are to represent:

  + URIrefs
  + bNodes
  + literals (incl. XMLLiteral) in the triple form S P O

 all other constructs (as rdf:Seq, or rdf:parseType) 
 are introduced by RDF/XML .'

Unfortunately I did not get any feedback if my interpretation is
correct,
but maybe we can discuss this in the context of ISSUE-8. 

My main point here is: vocabulary as rdf:li, or rdf:Seq stem from
RDF/XML,
hence we should contemplate on *IF* and *HOW* to support it.

Cheers,
	Michael

BTW: I get more and more the feeling we focus too much on syntactic
sugar 
     while not resolving essential issues as bNodes, etc.

[1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa/RDFCoverage

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 Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
 Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
 JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
  
 http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: public-swd-wg-request@w3.org 
>[mailto:public-swd-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ben Adida
>Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:10 AM
>To: RDFa; SWD WG
>Subject: [RDFa] ISSUE-8: RDF containers in RDFa
>
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>There's one syntax issue we haven't talked about n a while that we
>should probably address in *some* form: how to express RDF containers
>and/or lists. In particular, how do we indicate a list of 
>creators, or a
>list of licenses, or a list of authors in a paper.
>
>I wrote a proposal on RDFa containers a while ago:
>http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2006-rdfa-containers
>
>but that assumed we would do RDF Bags and Sequences. I don't 
>know yet if
>that's what we should support, or if we should just focus on lists,
>denoted [a,b,c] in Turtle.
>
>Input from anyone, in particular the SWD WG, would be very helpful! I
>think for XHTML1.1+RDFa, we should do the simplest thing that doesn't
>completely prevent us from encoding lists of some kind.
>
>In terms of implementation, the right direction is likely something
>using UL, OL, and LI, possibly involving @href/@resource on the LI, as
>we had expected @href everywhere in the original XHTML2-based proposal.
>
>-Ben
>
>