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Re: [RDFa] Overview

From: Ben Adida <ben@adida.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:27:46 -0500
Message-ID: <45D20322.4000206@adida.net>
To: mark.birbeck@x-port.net
CC: "Hausenblas, Michael" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>, Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>, boland@nist.gov, public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org, public-swd-wg@w3.org, www-qa@w3.org



Michael,

A few comments:

- yes, useful document, just make sure it remains a quick overview and
doesn't turn into another Primer :)

- regarding Mark's point, I think you should simply call it "RDFa in
HTML". Let's not talk about RDFa in other XML dialects right now (plus
our group is not chartered for that.)

-Ben

Mark Birbeck wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> This is a useful document. However, everything you have done here
> relates to XHTML. The goal of RDFa was always to provide a way to add
> RDF to *any* mark-up, via attributes. In other words, it supports
> augmenting SVG, as much as it supports XHTML. (In fact, someone has
> even provided use-cases for using RDFa to augment RDF/XML.)
> 
> So the document you are describing should either be less
> XHTML-specific (which might be tricky) or it should not refer to
> "RDFa", but perhaps something like "RDFa in XHTML" or "RDFa in HTML".
> (The main environment in which RDFa will be initially deployed will be
> HTML.)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 13/02/07, Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Karl, Tim, All,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your comments. Due to these encouraging
>> postings I have now put together a very first draft of the
>> umbrella document [1].
>>
>> Ben (1): This doc (cf. section 4) also partly addresses the
>> action you (we both) haven taken to list the RDF coverage [2].
>>
>> Ben (2): I also included the GRDDL-RDFa relation into this doc;
>> IMHO it should be presented prominently to ensure that people reading
>> the docs know who plays which role ;)
>>
>> Please let me know what you think ...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>         Michael
>>
>>
>> Note: As this is the very first draft, do _not_ expect to much,
>>       though it should show the direction and tries to address
>>       all the issues (esp. Tim raised w.r.t. terminology, etc.)
>>       raised beforehand.
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/
>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/12-htmltf-minutes.html#action08
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>  Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
>>  Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
>>  JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
>>
>>  http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Karl Dubost [mailto:karl@w3.org]
>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:17 AM
>> >To: Hausenblas, Michael
>> >Cc: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org; public-swd-wg@w3.org; www-qa@w3.org
>> >Subject: Re: [RDFa] Yet another QA-related question
>> >
>> >
>> >Le 9 févr. 2007 à 17:27, Hausenblas, Michael a écrit :
>> >> So what is missing in my (limited) understanding is a document
>> >> that actually _is_ the umbrella specification document. This
>> >> document (overview, guide, etc.) might state that the RDFa spec
>> >> consists of the following documents, as of [2]:
>> >>
>> >>  + XHTML Metainformation Module
>> >>  + XHTML Metainformation Attributes Module
>> >>  + RDFa Primer 1.0
>> >>  + RDFa Syntax
>> >>  + RDFa Use Cases: Scenarios for Embedding RDF in HTML
>> >>  + RDFa Test Suite
>> >>
>> >> Am I totally wrong with this?
>> >
>> >Totally on target! Your umbrellas specification is the document which
>> >ties everything together, help to have a global overview of the
>> >technology, it is somehow the key entrance for the rest of your
>> >documents. It is a kind of meta table of contents with guidance or
>> >the book introduction if you prefer.
>> >
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>      Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> BTW, Karl D.: As I followed your advice to CC: www-qa@w3.org,
>> >>      I would very much appreciate comments from your side as well :)
>> >>      The same applies to other posts ([4] and [5]) from the last days
>> >> ...
>> >
>> >
>> >That's really cool.  Answering the questions, you are asking, will
>> >benefit other people. QA Framework: Specification is a set of tools
>> >to better define a technology and help to write a specification.
>> >
>> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/spec-variability/
>> >> [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_documents
>> >> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/spec-variability/#umbrella
>> >> [4]
>> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Feb/
>> >> 0028.
>> >> html
>> >> [5]
>> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Feb/
>> >> 0027.
>> >> html
>> >>
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>> >
>> >--
>> >Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/
>> >W3C Conformance Manager, QA Activity Lead
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>> >      *** Be Strict To Be Cool ***
>> >
>> >
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