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RE: The RDF/A Marketing Site

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:08:22 +0100
To: "'public-rdf-in-xhtml task force'" <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <038801c65b37$6c8f0900$0e01a8c0@Jan>

Ben,

I totally agree, re-time, administration, etc. My point about functionality
is only that we should try to plan for the future, not that we will have
active forums and all those other things right now.

When we tried to create an XForms wiki we ended up moving the site 5 times
through different pieces of wiki software, since none of them ever did quite
what we wanted. One moment you think that ease of editing is the most
important feature, then you discover that you need a taxonomy, or that you
need to have security such as individual logins. I was only pointing out
what features we will need at some point, to make sure that we have those in
from the beginning.

Anyway, WordPress is very good, and if you have free support for it that's a
big plus. But for the kind of site we want to have *eventually* I think
Drupal is actually more appropriate. (And I know a lot of this stuff is
*very* subjective, and on some lists that comment would start a fight along
the lines of two families at a wedding!) If anyone has experience with these
packages it would be good to hear other views.

So, my vote is for Drupal...just as others would vote for what they are
familiar with. ;) We use it here at x-port for some of our sites, and we're
starting to move over those that don't.

Actually, thinking about it, we (x-port) could create a Drupal site for
RDF/A in no time at all, since all we have to do is create a new
sub-directory. (I originally said that I didn't think it was appropriate for
it to be part of our skimstone site which uses Drupal, but I was being
dim...we can easily create a completely separate site.) The advantage here
would be that the whole administration would be within our group of
'interested parties'.

Regards,

Mark


Mark Birbeck
CEO
x-port.net Ltd.

e: Mark.Birbeck@x-port.net
t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232
b: http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/
w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Adida [mailto:ben@MIT.EDU] 
> Sent: 08 April 2006 17:38
> To: Mark Birbeck
> Cc: 'public-rdf-in-xhtml task force'
> Subject: Re: The RDF/A Marketing Site
> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I share your concern about Wikis, I was only giving the extra 
> data point for us to consider. One other thing to consider: a 
> wiki might be a good place for the *admins* to collaborate on 
> writing an example use case without a complicated content 
> management interface.
> 
> I favor a WordPress approach for two reasons:
> 1) it's simpler for starting out
> 2) the CC folks can help us set it up and administer it since 
> they do this already for some CC sites
> 
> Neither one of us have tremendous amounts of free time to 
> make this site as complete as possible, nor to administer it, 
> moderate forums, etc... I share your excitement in getting 
> the word out and building a cool site, but I think we need to 
> be *very* conservative in how much content we think we'll be 
> able to generate in the first few months, and how much time 
> we can set aside for administration.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -Ben
> 
> On Apr 8, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Mark Birbeck wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> >> Certainly on the list of things to consider. As an additional data 
> >> point, I'm told that Microformats.org uses WP + MediaWiki.
> >
> > This is probably sacrilege, but after having tried many 
> times to use 
> > Wikis in different forms in the XForms community I think they are 
> > inappropriate for most of what we want to do. The great thing about 
> > systems like Drupal is that you have easy ways of creating anything 
> > from a standalone article, to a forum with threaded 
> discussions to a 
> > whole 'book', all of which will be useful to us going forward.
> >
> > In many cases wikis don't seem to get updated a great deal by the 
> > community (microformats' included), which I think is 
> understandable; 
> > it's because it's quite daunting for people to add a page, but it's 
> > quite straightforward for them to add a question to a forum.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > Mark Birbeck
> > CEO
> > x-port.net Ltd.
> >
> > e: Mark.Birbeck@x-port.net
> > t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232
> > b: http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/
> > w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/
> >
> > Download our XForms processor from
> > http://www.formsPlayer.com/
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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