Re: meeting record: 2005-08-16 SWBPD HTML TF telecon

Belated regrets; I was in other phone discussions.

Dan

* Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org> [2005-08-16 11:05-0400]
> 
> The [1]record of today's (lightly attended) HTML TF telecon is ready for review.
> 
>   [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/16-swbp-minutes.html
> 
> A snapshot of Revision 1.3  2005/08/16 15:00:31 follows:
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> SWBPD HTML Task Force
> 
> 16 Aug 2005
> 
>    [2]Agenda
> 
>       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Aug/0009.html
> 
>    See also: [3]IRC log
> 
>       [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/16-swbp-irc
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> Attendees
> 
>    Present
>           Ralph Swick, Mark Birbeck
> 
>    Regrets
>           Ben Adida, Steven Pemberton
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>    Chair
>           Ralph
> 
>    Scribe
>           Ralph
> 
>    Previous
>           [4]Record of 2005-08-02 meeting
> 
>       [4] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-swbp-minutes
> 
> Contents
> 
>      * Topics
>          1. convene, take roll, review records and agenda
>          2. Issues List
>          3. bnode proposal
>          4. RDF Concepts and Fragments
>          5. Edge Cases of inheritance in RDF/A
>      * Summary of Action Items
> 
>      _____________________________________________________________
> 
>     Mark: [12]Wiki server is up again, may be unstable for a couple of
>    weeks until new hardware arrives
> 
>      [12] http://www.xforms-wiki.com/bin/view/Main/LanguageRdfA
> 
> convene, take roll, review records and agenda
> 
>    -> [13]Record of 2005-08-02 meeting
> 
>      [13] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-swbp-minutes
> 
>    ACTION: Ben create a way to track progress on the 3 issues of qnames,
>    reification, and custom attributes and elements [recorded in
>    [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
> 
>      [14] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action01
> 
>    ->
>    [15]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues
>    RDF in XHTML Taskforce - Current Issues
> 
>      [15] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues
> 
>    ACTION: Ben to notify working group via a status report of upcoming WD
>    of Note [recorded in
>    [16]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]
> 
>      [16] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action02
> 
>    -> [17][HTML] RDF-in-HTML Task Force Update to the SWBPD WG Ben
>    2005-08-08]
> 
>      [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Aug/0011.html
> 
>    ACTION: Ben add role attribute to the [HTML] issues list [recorded in
>    [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-swbp-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
> 
>      [18] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-swbp-minutes.html#action08
> 
>    -> [19]Role issue
> 
>      [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues#role
> 
>    ACTION: Ben send mail to www-html-editors to assign an issue for the
>    GRDDL namespace document behind the profile [recorded in
>    [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action03] [DONE]
> 
>      [20] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action03
> 
>    -> [21]Request to Track Issue: GRDDL in XHTML2 namespace document Ben
>    2005-08-07]
> 
>      [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2005JulSep/0026.html
> 
>    ACTION: Ben to put together the "ACID" test for XHTML2 RDF/A [recorded
>    in [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action02]
>    [CONTINUES]
> 
>      [22] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action02
> 
>    -> [23]RDF/A Wiki
> 
>      [23] http://www.xforms-wiki.com/bin/view/Main/LanguageRdfA
> 
>    Ralph: meet next week?
> 
>    Mark: regrets for next 2 weeks
>    ... also regrets from Steven for next week
> 
>    Ralph: I'm not available on 6 Sep
>    ... I will poke JJC and DanBri to see if either of them want to meet
>    before 6 Sep, else next meeting 6 Sep
> 
> Issues List
> 
>    -> [24]RDF in XHTML Taskforce - Current Issues
> 
>      [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues
> 
>    Mark: in a new document I'm writing, I've been using the custom
>    attribute shorthand rather extensively. I am looking also at
>    reification and it seems that a good way to do this might be to allow
>    META to specify an RDF Statement, then easy to talk about this
>    Statement. In early drafts of RDF/A META was like SPAN but now we're
>    relying more on A+attributes so META can become more powerful
> 
> bnode proposal
> 
>    -> [25]suggestion new uri scheme??? for bnodes [Jeremy 2005-08-11]
> 
>      [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Aug/0008.html
> 
>    Ralph: I've started to think about this and wonder if a namespace
>    would be an adequate solution? A similar question came up in naming
>    variables for RDF rules languages and this must arise in SPARQL too
> 
>    Mark: problem still with getting down to URIs in triples
>    ... my final conclusion was that we either need 2 attributes or an
>    XPointer function
>    ... I think I've pretty much demonstrated that the other methods won't
>    work
>    ... need others to come up with arguments for or against these
> 
>    ACTION: All take a serious look at Mark's [$1\47]bnode proposal
>    summary [recorded in
>    [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action07]
>    [CONTINUES]
> 
>      [26] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action07
> 
>    [$1\47]
>    [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jun
>    /0010.html
> 
>      [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jun/0010.html
> 
> RDF Concepts and Fragments
> 
>    ACTION: JJC to review rdf concepts and fragments [recorded in
>    [28]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action10]
>    [CONTINUES]
> 
>      [28] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action10
> 
> Edge Cases of inheritance in RDF/A
> 
>    ACTION: Mark to check edge cases of inheritance in RDF/A [recorded in
>    [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action06]
>    [CONTINUES]
> 
>      [29] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action06
> 
> Summary of Action Items
> 
>    ACTION: All take a serious look at Mark's [$1\47]bnode proposal
>    summary [recorded in
>    [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action07]
>    ACTION: Ben to put together the "ACID" test for XHTML2 RDF/A [recorded
>    in [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action02]
>    ACTION: JJC to review rdf concepts and fragments [recorded in
>    [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action10]
>    ACTION: Mark to check edge cases of inheritance in RDF/A [recorded in
>    [33]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action06]
> 
>      [30] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action07
>      [31] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action02
>      [32] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action10
>      [33] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action06
> 
>    [DONE] ACTION: Ben add role attribute to the [HTML] issues list
>    [recorded in
>    [35]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-swbp-minutes.html#action08]
>    [DONE] ACTION: Ben create a way to track progress on the 3 issues
>    of qnames, reification, and custom attributes and elements [recorded
>    in [37]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action01]
>    [DONE] ACTION: Ben send mail to www-html-editors to assign an
>    issue for the GRDDL namespace document behind the profile [recorded in
>    [39]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action03]
>    [DONE] ACTION: Ben to notify working group via a status report of
>    upcoming WD of Note [recorded in
>    [41]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action02]
> 
>      [35] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-swbp-minutes.html#action08
>      [37] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-swbp-minutes.html#action01
>      [39] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action03
>      [41] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html#action02
> 
>    [End of minutes]
> 
>    Change Log
> $Log: 16-swbp-minutes.html,v $
> Revision 1.3  2005/08/16 15:00:31  swick
> First published draft
> 
>      _____________________________________________________________
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>     $Date: 2005/08/16 15:00:31 $
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