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From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:15:46 -0500
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Just a comforting follow-up on the concern on today's call about David 
Wood's LDP email.   An hour later he answers that he's okay with the 
status quo -- GSP proceeding on its own, separate from LDP.


     -- Sandro



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Hi Arnaud,

Nope, I'm just busy and not up to speed!  Sorry, the status quo 
satisfies me.

Regards,
Dave
--
http://about.me/david_wood



On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:31, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com 
<mailto:lehors@us.ibm.com>> wrote:

> Hi David,
> Did you see what we said about this on our WG page?
>
> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Linked_Data_Platform_.28LDP.29_vs_SPARQL_Graph_Store_HTTP_Protocol_.28GSP.29 
>
>
> I take it that the status quo doesn't satisfy you.
> --
> Arnaud  Le Hors - Software Standards Architect - IBM Software Group
>
>
> David Wood <david@3roundstones.com <mailto:david@3roundstones.com>> 
> wrote on 12/11/2012 07:07:13 AM:
>
> > From: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com 
> <mailto:david@3roundstones.com>>
> > To: Arnaud Le Hors/Cupertino/IBM@IBMUS,
> > Cc: public-ldp-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-ldp-wg@w3.org>
> > Date: 12/11/2012 07:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: Closing ISSUE-5: Add a section explaining how LDBP is
> > related to Graph  Store Protocol
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The SPARQL 1.1 HTTP Graph Store Protocol [1] is in CR, but also its
> > status notes that it "may be superseded".  I'm not sure what that
> > means.  Its introduction says:
> > [[
> > This document describes the use of HTTP operations for the purpose
> > of managing a collection of RDF graphs. This interface is an
> > alternative to the SPARQL 1.1 Update protocol. Most of the
> > operations defined here can be performed using that interface, but
> > for some clients or servers, this interface may be easier to
> > implement or work with. This specification may serve as a non-
> > normative suggestion for HTTP operations on RDF graphs which are
> > managed outside of a SPARQL 1.1 graph store.
> > ]]
> > …which certainly sounds like an overlap with LDP to me and thus
> > ISSUE-5 makes sense.  We should feel an obligation to align W3C
> > Recommendations.
> >
> > I propose that the LDP WG formally ask Chimezie Ogbuji (the editor)
> > and the SPARQL WG to consider folding the requirements for the
> > SPARQL 1.1 HTTP Graph Store Protocol specification into the LDP
> > specification, and to withdraw the CR.  This would have the benefits
> > of aligning the specification family, reducing duplication and
> > satisfying a greater number of use cases.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> > --
> > http://about.me/david_wood
> >
>
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2012, at 16:43, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com 
> <mailto:lehors@us.ibm.com>> wrote:
> >
> > As I was looking closer to the list of open issues I realized that
> > this one [1] actually ought to be simply close as is.
> >
> > Unfortunately at the beginning I failed to make sure that our
> > minutes clearly reflected the resolutions we made and looking at our
> > archives I can't quite reconstruct the exact history here.
> >
> > The issue change log reads: "decided at the telcon 9/24/2012: keep
> > it on record (OPEN) for now, before we decide what to do." even
> > though the minutes from that day [2] don't clearly support that.
> >
> > At the same time, the week before we decided to address the
> > relationship between LDP and GPS by adding a paragraph to the LDP 
> WGpage [3].
> >
> > So, I don't see why we would still want to keep this issue open. As
> > a consequence I'm putting this one up for review.
> > If anyone has any lights to shed on this or wants to object please
> > let me know.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/5
> > [2] http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-09-24
> > [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/
> > 2012-09-17#sparql_graph_store_protocol__2c__overview_by_steve_speicher
> > --
> > Arnaud  Le Hors - Software Standards Architect - IBM Software Group 
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