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Re: Draft Response to ED-1

From: Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:13:52 +0000
Cc: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@talis.com>, "public-rdf-dawg@w3.org Group" <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <4CDE2104-449C-4733-BEB2-27837C2F6D24@garlik.com>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
We did already discuss a very similar design, put forward by Eric P.,  
there wasn't much enthusiasm from the group at that time.

People may have changed their minds of course.

- Steve

On 12 Feb 2010, at 10:28, Ivan Herman wrote:

> The question is whether we should 'keep the door open' for Emanuele's
> design until the f2f and try to find some time to discuss there. I am
> not fully convinced of the value of always referring back to SQL  
> (eg, I
> am not an SQL user, so this argument does not resonate for me) and I  
> did
> find value in Emanuele's design which, in some way, might be more
> succinct than what we have...
>
> I do not want to put up a fight for this alternative design, but I  
> would
> not want to give the impression to dismiss it too lightly
>
> Ivan
>
> On 2010-2-11 15:05 , Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> I think we need to recognize that Emanuele's design is not just about
>> syntax and it allows for things that can't be done in SPARQL 1.1  
>> without
>> duplication of patterns (e.g. multiple aggregates over the same  
>> pattern).
>>
>> While it's attractive to be able to do such thing, on balance, I  
>> don't
>> propose we address such functionality in this round.
>>
>>    Andy
>>
>> On 11/02/2010 10:08, Steve Harris wrote:
>>> c.f.
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0006.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Emanuele,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comment regarding the SPARQL 1.1 working draft  
>>> syntax
>>> for aggregate operations.
>>>
>>> The working group did consider an aggregate design similar to the  
>>> one
>>> you propose while discussing the various syntax options.
>>>
>>> However, the overall opinion of the group was that the familiarity  
>>> of
>>> the SQL-style aggregate operations was of a greater benefit than the
>>> terseness of the syntax.
>>>
>>> - Steve Harris, on behalf of the SPARQL WG.
>>>
>>
>
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