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Re: Initial draft of Design:Aggregate

From: Chimezie Ogbuji <ogbujic@ccf.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:40:48 -0400
To: "Seaborne, Andy" <andy.seaborne@hp.com>, "SPARQL Working Group" <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C6A6ED20.BCA8%ogbujic@ccf.org>
Hey Andy

On 8/10/09 9:10 AM, "Seaborne, Andy" <andy.seaborne@hp.com> wrote:
>> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:Aggregate
> Hi Chime,
> Yes - including LaTeX is hard. I think you can cut-and-paste the symbols into
> the wiki text because it's all UTF-8 HTML but that's a bit fragile and only
> marginally better.

Okay, thanks.  I'll give that a try

> I took tried to write out some formal definitions to check my understanding:
> is this the sort of thing you had in mind?
> Single valued function: returns a solution projected down to named variables
> only:
>   key(varlist, mu) = { (v,x) | (v,x) in mu, v in varlist }
> and the set of all keys:
>   key(varlist, Omega) = { k | mu in Omeag, k=key(varlist,mu) }
> The partition of the multiset Omega is:
>   Partition(varlist, Omega) = { (k,mu) | mu in Omega, k=key(varlist, mu) }

Yes, this needs to return a set from the multiset and varlist in order to
ensure uniqueness of the partitions.
> Let agg(VarList,SubOmega) be the aggregation function run on a multiset of
> solutions taking variables VarList
> Aggregation(VarList, FuncAndVars, Omega, Mu) =
>    { merge(k, (Vout, agg(Vin,X)) | (k, X) in Partition(varlist, Omega),
> FuncAndVars=(f, Vin, Vout), agg in set f }

I believe we are on the same page.

> Aside: we may need to restrict variable Vout so it does not clash with the
> key.


> One last point: do we want GROUP BY expressions, not just variables?  In think
> we do; does create some issues about the projected down variables that are
> arguments to the partitioning expression.
> Some SQL systems put a random
> selection (AKAK first found?) but I prefer to not include the variables of an
> expression at all so as to get ehy same results each time.
> Andy

Good question, I don't know off head (will need to chew on that).

-- Chimezie 


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