W3C

RDF Data Access Weekly

10 Apr 2007

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Attendees

Present
LeeF, ericP, AndyS, Orri_Erling, SimonR
Regrets
jeen, souri
Chair
LeeF
Scribe
LeeF, ericP

Contents


convene

minutes from last week -> http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-minutes

approved minutes, ericP seconding

next meeting, 17 Apr, regrets AndyS

scribe next meeting @@

action items

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to commit batch updates to out-of-date tests [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to add tests along the lines of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0079.html to data-r2/syntax-sparql* and send mail so we can approve them next week [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF or EliasT to reply to Bjoern regarding (not) POSTing application/sparql-query documents [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: jeen to go through and identify out-of-date tests that shouldn't be migrated to data-r2 (after ericP commits batch updates to tests) [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

<scribe> ACTION: jeen to mark these 22 approved tests as approved [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

last call comments

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to try running DanC's comment-tracking script(s) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Apr/0003.html Andy's reply to Corby comments

FROM * / FROM NAMED *

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Apr/0001.html Chimezie on FROM / FROM NAMED *

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0003.html working group thread

SimonR: In Mulgara, we have a graph '#' that can be queried and its information is all the other graphs that the system has

Orri: In Virtuoso, if you omit FROM and FROM NAMED you get the union of all graphs

<AndyS> In ARQ you get whatever the dataset has been set up to be.

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/issues#serviceDescription service description

<SimonR> We may be able to respond to this issue by saying we have two postponed issues: service description, and cascaded queries. Together, these will probably address the use case in the next version (1.1?)

<scribe> ACTION: SimonR to respond to Chimezie noting no change and referencing the postponed cascaded queries and service description issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Apr/0004.html Andy's response to Ivan

langMatches

ericP: there are two kinds of matching for language tags (there used to be one - there's more structure in between the hyphens now)
... one matching is compatible with 3067 and one is newer and deals with being in the proper script even if you don't know the language
... jeremy gave two approaches - the conservative approach goes with basic matching - everyone knows this approach
... the other approach promotes the new rfc 4646 scheme but would be a change to our language
... I think we should clarify and go with basic

AndyS: We need to reference the right part of the document and need to specify which matching algorithm to use (basic)

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to respond to Jeremy Carroll's comments re: langMatches [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

test suite

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0007.html Eric's changes to old tests

scribe: includes Algae output showing which tests still fail

I encourage people to look at sets of test cases and propose them for approval

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0009.html Eric: tests of blabels in BGP patterns

<AndyS> Syntax tests: 196 tests

<AndyS> Passed 196 tests.

PROPOSED: approve the four tests referenced in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0009.html

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql3/syn-blabel-cross-filter.rq

<SimonR> I'll abstain.

RESOLVED, SimonR abstaining

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to mark the four tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0009.html approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]

LeeF: anything else?

ericP: I made the Last Call status report work

<ericP> LC status report

ericP: not quite working yet :)

<SimonR> ADJOURN at 15:18Z

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: ericP to respond to Jeremy Carroll's comments re: langMatches [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[NEW] ACTION: ericP to try running DanC's comment-tracking script(s) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[NEW] ACTION: LeeF to mark the four tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0009.html approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[NEW] ACTION: SimonR to respond to Chimezie noting no change and referencing the postponed cascaded queries and service description issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[PENDING] ACTION: jeen to go through and identify out-of-date tests that shouldn't be migrated to data-r2 (after ericP commits batch updates to tests) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[PENDING] ACTION: jeen to mark these 22 approved tests as approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[PENDING] ACTION: LeeF or EliasT to reply to Bjoern regarding (not) POSTing application/sparql-query documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[PENDING] ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
 
[DONE] ACTION: ericP to add tests along the lines of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0079.html to data-r2/syntax-sparql* and send mail so we can approve them next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
[DONE] ACTION: ericP to commit batch updates to out-of-date tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-dawg-irc]
 
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