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agenda: RDF Data Access 6 Sep

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:33:36 -0500
To: RDF Data Access Working Group <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1125934417.16011.900.camel@dirk>

1. Convene, take roll, review records and agenda

  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/
  2005-09-06T14:30Z
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scribe: Kendall
regrets: SteveH
welcome Rachel Yager, representing FSTC

record for review:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JulSep/0320.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JulSep/att-0320/Aug30.html

next meeting: 13 Sep. scribe volunteer?

note the following done without discussion:

ACTION: EricP to change contact email to dawg-comments and call for
review in IETF
DONE in 1.480

ACTION: EricP to respond to "External storage" comment
DanC accidently did it

continue the following without discussion:

ACTION: LeeF to draft WSDL 1.1 for SPARQL thingy with AndyS and Elias
ETA 9 sep

ACTION: DanC to ask WSDL WG to review WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2 SPARQL
protocol stuff, once both are available

comments on agenda?

It's based on
 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/ 1.480
 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/proto-wd/ 1.63
 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/issues 1.98
 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/lc-status-report.html 1.22


2. comment: Query forms should be resources, not operations

BM and KC don't seem to have reached consensus. Hmm.

2005-09-05T00:36:22Z from distobj
http://www.w3.org/mid/20050905003622.GR17056@markbaker.ca


3. comment: SPARQL Protocol: inconsistent parameter names
http://www.w3.org/mid/43130E85.6040707@aduna.biz

Did anybody get back to the commentor?


4. Toward Protocol Last Call

ACTION KC: update protocol spec to show that SPARQL services that export
HTTP bindings must export the HTTP binding in this SPARQL protocol spec;
likewise for SOAP

ACTION: KendallC to add editorial note to protocol spec showing that our
WSDL is not kosher and it depends on their final decision.

ACTION: KendallC, to relax the query-result type to allow "equivalent
serialization" [salt to taste] and leave out the
whttp:outputSerialization param, note the conflict with the current WSDL
spec, and take the risk that we'll have to come back if they say no

ACTION: KC to make conneg explicit in c. CONSTRUCT with simple RDF
dataset and take accept: out elsewhere


5. BASE IRI resolution comment

ACTION: ericP to send [OK?] message to Bjoern.


6. issues#valueTesting : "language tag issues"

http://www.w3.org/mid/431338a1.225522296@smtp.bjoern.hoehrmann.de


7. issues#valueTesting: handling type "error"s

regarding
Bug: "A value disjunction that encounters a type error on only one
branch will return the result of evaluating the other branch."
http://www.w3.org/mid/B27E3100-A366-496F-AC9A-A0E5257C3F80@w3.org

we have...

ACTION: DaveB to make 'XXI'^^:romanNumeral = 21 and points nearby into
test cases (or ask questions in email).

which is done in that it illustrates the issue nicely...
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ValueTesting/roman.rq
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ValueTesting/roman.n3
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ValueTesting/roman-result.n3

now... which way does the answer go? like Dave's test
materials (1 result), or like the LC spec (0 results)?


8. issues#sort, comment ORDER with IRIs
http://www.w3.org/mid/431b3915.225638015@smtp.bjoern.hoehrmann.de

I lost track... I'd like to establish who has the ball on this.


9. Recent SPARQL QL comments

Let's take a look at these and see how many should involve the
whole WG vs. just the editors and/or chairs. Barstow's comment
in particular is one where I misjudged...

  * Comments on SPARQL: Querying the Dataset 
      * 2005-08-30T19:01:08Z from jagannathan.srinivasan
  * Comments on SPARQL: Semantics of queries involving named graphs 
      * 2005-09-01T01:47:14Z from jagannathan.srinivasan
  * Some typos in WD 
      * 2005-09-01T08:07:52Z from Olivier.Corby
  * Comments on last-call SPARQL draft 20050721, section 2 
      * 2005-09-01T11:27:51Z from GK
      * 2005-09-01T12:33:53Z from connolly
  * Comments on SPARQL Query Language for RDF (21 July 2005 version) 
      * 2005-09-01T17:12:32Z from Art.Barstow
      * 2005-09-01T18:01:57Z from connolly
  * Example Errors 
      * 2005-09-02T23:17:29Z from RRLevering


10. Toward SPARQL CR

ACTION: DanC to investigate having CVS commits send to the WG list

request for CR needs
 - documentation that dependencies are discharged
   - we haven't closed the loop with XQuery
 - documentation of outstanding dissent
   - Network Inference's objection to the BRQL strawman
     rather than something XQuery-based is still outstanding.


11. Protocol Testing

ACTION: EliasT to draft test for WSDL 2.0 mime type restriciton in
output serializatin

ACTION EliasT: establish consistency between protocol examples and tests


12. WSDL last call

ACTION: KC to work with WSDL WG on describing POST binding with
application/x-form-encoded in WSDL 2

ACTION: KC to work with WSDL WG on moving "style" from interface to
binding


-- 
Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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