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Re: Various comments on SPARQL 1.1 Entailment Regimes

From: Birte Glimm <birte.glimm@comlab.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:31:41 +0100
Message-ID: <CABt65OeQFgqGgYUX2QzXTOGey_CO=abXCmP5+Xg8wpO1oXVe1A@mail.gmail.com>
To: antoine.zimmermann@insa-lyon.fr
Cc: public-rdf-dawg-comments@w3.org
Dear Antoine,

in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jun/0009.htmlyou
expressen concerns about the fixed datatype map for the D-Entailment
Regime. The WG wants to inform you that due to your and Michael Schneider's
comment (
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Nov/0025.html)
the WG has reconsidered the decision. The D-Entailment Regime has been
changed to no longer prescribe a fixed datatype map. Instead, systems are
required to provide a means to determine which datatype map they use, e.g.,
by stating that in the system documentation. The only requirement is that a
canonical mapping must be defined, which is needed to ensure finiteness of
the answers.

The current editor's draft is available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/xmlspec.xml

Since we have not yet recieved a reply from you (also regarding the other
requested changes, which have been addressed almost fully as requested), we
would be grateful if you would acknowledge that your comment has now been
answered by sending a reply to this mailing list.

Birte, on behalf of the SPARQL-WG


On 15 June 2011 09:39, Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@deri.org>wrote:

> These are various comments (mostly editorial) about SPARQL 1.1 Entailment
> Regimes.  Overall, I find this document very good.
>
> Apart from the detailed comments below, my main concerns are the following:
>
>  A)  Section 2.1 and 3.2 should be put together in a separate section.
>  2.1 does not belong to Section 2 "RDF entailment" and 3.2 does not belong
> to Section 3 "RDFS entailment".  They both are applicable to any entailment
> regime.
>
>  B)  D-entailment is not defined as in RDF Semantics.  Why?  The
> definition does not even correspond to an OWL 2 D-entailment, nor a RIF
> D-entailment.
>
>
> Detailed comments:
>  - At the end of the abstract, give a comprehensive list of the entailment
> regimes given in this document instead of "...such as RDF entailment, RDFS
> entailment, etc."
>  - Section "Changes":
>  * "forth" -> fourth
>  * "has been made explicit in for each regime" -> in OR for?
>  - Sec.1.1.3:
>  * use a different font or face (bold, italic, etc) for variables to
> differentiate them from normal words (especially "I", "a", which are
> English words too).
>  * "A triple pattern is member of the set" -> is a member
>  - Sec.1.3:
>  * certain well-formed of RDF graphs" -> well-formed RDF graphs
>  * "to be taken to to address" -> taken to address
>  - Sec.2:
>  * "forth" -> fourth
>  * condition (C2) is different from the condition given in Sec.2.2, where
> \mu(x) is replaced by sk(\mu(x)) and SG is replaced by sk(SG). Please
> harmonise.
>  - Sec.2.1:
>  * I don't see any reason why this section is in the RDF entailment regime
> section. It's clearly independent of the entailment regime. Even the
> examples inside are going beyond RDF entailment. This should be in a
> separate section
>  * there is the following example:
> ex:s ex:p "<a/>"^^rdf:XMLLiteral .
> ex:p rdfs:domain rdfs:Literal .
> I don't see why the second line was included.
>  * in the last example triples:
> _:lit rdf:type rdfs:literal .
> It should read "Literal" with a capital "L".
>  - In Sec.2.2: compare condition (C2) here and in the tables of the
> entailment regimes;
>  - Sec.3.1: "Here we can to derive the" -> we can derive?
>  - Sec.3.2: this has nothing to do in the section on RDFS regime. It is
> independent of the regime, like sec.2.1. Make a separate section, probably
> together with what's in Sec.2.1;
>  - Sec.4:
>  * "A datatype map for the D-entailment refime MUST contain at least all
> pairs of the form <prefix:dt,dt>, ..." -> this is different from the
> definition in RDF Semantics. RDF D-entailment does not require that XSDs
> are included in the datatype map.
>  * """The set Lit(SG) is the set of all literals "xx"^^dt such that
> "yy"^^pdt occurs in SG, xx is the canonical representation of yy, and pdt
> is the primitive datatype from which dt is derived""" -> dt and pdt should
> be swapped. The same error occurs in Sec.5 and Sec.6.
>  - Sec.4.1:
>  * "e.g., integer, byte, and short all based on decimal" -> ..., and short
> are all based ...
>  * "(from the first tripe)" -> from the first triple
>  - Sec.5.2: the editorial note is correct, the example is not well chosen.
> Use this example instead:
> Data: ex:x owl:sameAs "5"^^xsd:decimal .
> Query: SELECT ?l WHERE { ex:x owl:differentFrom ?l .}
>  - Sec.5.3: "reasoning problems in OWL under OWL 2 RDF-Based Semantics are
> undecidable ..." -> semi decidable, which means the computation of the
> query results always finishes in finite time.
>  - Sec.6.5.1: "OWL 2 DL can also handle ... EL and QL profiles ..." -> and
> RL profile too.
>  - Sec.6.5.4: "OWL 2 RL defines a syntactic subset of OWL 2, which ..." ->
> subset of OWL 2 DL, which ...
>  - Sec.7.1: Illegal Handling does not specify anything about handling
> illegal graphs that are syntactically correct.
>  - Sec.7.3: the sentence "The ex:hasHospitalization ... with the events.",
> though grammatically correct, is very convoluted and hardly readable.
> Please rephrase it.
>  - Sec.8: "For an example, we consider a data set with consists of an
> empty ..." -> For example, we consider a data set which consists ...
>  - References:
>  * the W3C ref should have a link to the current version, not the latest
> which may be different from what is used by the SPARQL spec.
>  * why is "OWL 2 Profiles" not normative?
> --
> Antoine Zimmermann
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>
>


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