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Re: [OK?] Re: [SPARQL] i18n comment: Modification in description of langMatches operator

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:21:09 +0900
Message-ID: <462BFBF5.6060707@w3.org>
To: Addison Phillips <addison@inter-locale.com>
CC: eric@w3.org, jjc@hpl.hp.com, public-rdf-dawg-comments@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org

I think Addison's mail did unfortunately not reach the lists, so I'm 
sending it here again. Sorry for being late, Addison.

Felix

Addison Phillips wrote:
> All,
>
> I sent comments that were apparently similar to Jeremy's to Felix 
> privately. The following changes are better, but still not quite right 
> in my opinion.
>
> You have currently proposed:
>
> -- 
> Returns true if language-range (second argument) matches language-tag 
> (first argument). language-range is a basic language range per 
> Matching of Language Tags [RFC4647] section 2.1 and the matching 
> scheme is basic filtering defined in [RFC4647] section 3.3.1. A 
> language-range of "*" matches any non-empty language-tag string.
> -- 
>
> I observe:
>
> 1. Language matching in RFC 4647 is defined in terms of "language 
> priority lists" made up of "language ranges". It may be useful to 
> incorporate this concept into SPARQL query. If necessary, you may 
> limit the list to a single range.
>
> 2. The special range "*" usually matches all language tags, including 
> the empty tag. If it didn't, you would have the problem of not being 
> able to select contents with no tag except explicitly. That is, to 
> select everything, you'd need two queries: one for "*" and one for the 
> empty tag. (Obviously, omitting the langmatches statement has the same 
> effect, so your current text may be by design??)
>
> 3. You don't have a way of specifying the empty tag, or at least you 
> don't enumerate it. The empty tag only matches itself. That is:
>
>  FILTER langMatches( lang(?title), "")
>
> only matches items with an xml:lang=""
>
> You should call this fact out.
>
> I would thus propose that you change your text to something like this:
>
> -- 
> Returns true if the language priority list in the second argument 
> matches the language tag in the first argument according to the Basic 
> Filter matching scheme in Matching of Language Tags [RFC 4647] Section 
> 3.3.1. The language range may consist of one or more basic language 
> ranges (RFC 4647 Section 2.1) separated by commas or the empty string. 
> The special range "*" matches all language tag values, including the 
> empty value, while the empty string matches only items whose language 
> tag is the empty string.
> -- 
>
> Addison
>
Received on Monday, 23 April 2007 00:21:15 GMT

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