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Re: Official response to RDF-ISSUE-132: JSON-LD/RDF Alignment

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:20:48 -0400
Message-ID: <51B883C0.7070905@openlinksw.com>
To: public-rdf-comments@w3.org
On 6/12/13 9:57 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> On 6/12/13 9:35 AM, David Booth wrote:
>> On 06/12/2013 04:54 AM, Dan Brickley wrote:
>> [ . . . ]
>>> Since people are citing http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData and
>>> talking about its earlier draft that didn't say (RDF, SPARQL,...)
>>
>> One small factual clarification: Even the earliest public draft of 
>> that document explicitly mentions RDF and is clear that RDF is intended:
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20061115043657/http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html 
>>
>> The current version adds another mention of RDF directly to the list 
>> of four expectations, so it cannot be missed even on the most cursory 
>> reading.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
> And when someone comes along, using your reasoning, and claims it also 
> includes SPARQL what would your answer be?
>
> Note, I am referring to #3 in the revised meme where it states (RDF, 
> SPARQL). How does RDF have more weighting that SPARQL?
>
> Also, why do you keep on holding this indefensible position about 
> TimBL not knowing why he left RDF and SPARQL out of his initial bullet 
> points?
>
> You have: Date: 2006/10/25 16:33:40 and Date: 2009/06/18 18:24:33, and 
> I am sure you can work out the time difference. Basically, it took 
> TimBL that long to realize he was thinking about RDF but somehow 
> forget to add it to his bullet points in the original document.
>
> What about the timeframe from when he designed what became the Web 
> until the emergence of RDF? I guess he didn't realize that on the Web 
> he was designing [1] links would be use to denote relations too, 
> right? In addition, he didn't realize that links (in the form of HTTP 
> URIs) would be used to unambiguously denote things (entities) [2][3].
>
> Links:
>
> 1. http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/diagrams/history/proposal-fig1.gif
> 2. http://www.w3.org/2005/Talks/1110-iswc-tbl/#(4) -- that's Linked 
> Data 101
> 3. http://www.w3.org/2005/Talks/1110-iswc-tbl/#(7) -- URIs + HTTP 
> (this is Linked Data) .
>

An additional reference that I omitted from the list above:

4. http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/Talks/0511-tab-tbl/#(10) -- Linked Data 
(again, clearly defined and distinct from RDF) .

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