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Re: Local names may now start with a digit?

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:52:44 +0200
Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, public-rdf-comments <public-rdf-comments@w3.org>
Message-Id: <3464D9BB-243F-4BEF-8639-AD52A1BE80E9@w3.org>
To: Gavin Carothers <gavin@carothers.name>
Note that RDFa has the same feature. In the case of RDFa, the request came (a fairly long time ago, actually) from, eg, IPTC[1] that has internal data structures that denote individual items by numbers. This is the same with, say, geonames URI-s, if my memory serves me well, but also in a number of library cataloguing services. In all those cases the 'natural' prefix:localname' structure would lead to a numeric-only local name.


[1] http://www.iptc.org/site/Home/
On Jun 28, 2012, at 17:48 , Gavin Carothers wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:41 AM, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
>> I notice that the Turtle grammar now permits a local name to begin with
>> a digit, such as foo:1234 or _:5678 .
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#term-turtle2-PN_LOCAL
>> As far as I remember, this is a divergence from RDF/XML, because XML
>> local names are not permitted to start with a digit.  When I check the
>> RDF WG list of resolutions I see no mention of this change, so
>> I am wondering about the rationale for this change, but I see no mention
>> of it in the RDF WG list of resolutions:
>> http://demo.3roundstones.net/rdf/2012/rdfwg/resolutions.xhtml?view
>> Was this divergence discussed?  And if so, can someone please supply a
>> pointer to the rationale?
> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/1
> Part of the alignment of Turtle with SPARQL 1.0 and SPARQL 1.1, both
> of which allow for local names that start with digits. The RDF data
> model has always allowed for any IRI to be used, this in fact meant
> that there is valid RDF that cannot be expressed in RDF/XML.
> Thank you for your comment. I hope that clears up your question.
> Cheers,
> Gavin
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> David Booth, Ph.D.
>> http://dbooth.org/
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