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Re: [southerncross] Hull ID #

From: <clarke@ryderclassicyachts.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:42:21 -0400
To: southerncross
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Hi all,

Our intent was to distinguish between factory finished and owner completion boats by using different Hull ID numbers and mounting bronze plaques on the factory boats.  As a marketing strategy, (as if a cottage industry needs something as exalted as a strategy) the owner completion boats, stages I, II, and III were supposed to be enhanced by the existence of stage IV, the factory completed boat.

This is not the first time I've heard of owner completion boats with factory completion hull ID's. It is conceivable that all the early boats had CERSC designators, as Steve says I said, but somehow I doubt it. (I believe Steve, I'm not sure I believe me.) My mind is a blank. We may have bent to the wishes of one or two owner completion buyers who required that we supply SC ID numbers and/or bronze plaques. My suspicion is that more than one or two ID numbers have been changed in the course of thirty years in the interest of enhancing a boat's value.  My guess is that if a boat doesn't have a bronze plaque, unless there is some evidence of theft, the boat is probably not a factory finished boat. I'm pretty sure that all factory finished boats had plaques.

It is also possible, that one or two factory finished boats had some interior modifications.  We were not big on customization, but I think we must have done some.

All of which may be much ado about nothing, because some owner completion boats have been finished as well or better than those finished at the shop, either by other professional boatbuilders or by skilled amateurs. I've seen some very nice ones.

If I have any miraculous memory restoration, I'll be sure to let you know.

Best,

Clarke

Ryder Classic Yachts
61 Old Plainfield Pike
Foster, Rhode Island 02825
401-647-5776
clarke@ryderclassicyachts.com
www.ryderclassicyachts.com


        
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Bliven" <Steve.Bliven@comcast.net>
> To: southerncross@av1-5.us4.outblaze.com
> Subject: Re: [southerncross] Hull ID #
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:45:06 -0400
> 
> 
> on 9/11/07 12:37 PM, Gary Burton at GARYB@socomi.com wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the reply -
> >
> > The hull number of this boat is CERSC0251176
> >
> > So this is a factory finished boat...but it has no stantions, also as
> > you step through the bulkhead into the vee berth, is the area on the
> > left supposed to be sliding drawers or something else?
> >
> > Thanks for the help
> >
> > Gary
> 
> On all of the factory finished SC31s I've seen, as you step into the vee
> berth, the area to the left is a hanging locker.
> 
> According to Clarke Ryder, at some point (and I've never understood quite
> when) they separated the numbering system between the factory finished boats
> (designated as Southern Cross) and the kit boats (designated as Gilmers).  I
> doubt that the "split" was as early as hull 25.  Clarke sometimes monitors
> this list and perhaps he can add something here.
> 
> Best wishes.
> 
> Steve
> 
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