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Re: [Serial] XHTML Serialization (qt-2004Nov0025-02)

From: Joanne Tong <joannet@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:27:57 -0500
To: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
Cc: public-qt-comments@w3.org, public-qt-comments-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFAC321BBE.F484C2FB-ON85256FC2.006F5929-85256FC2.00706B7A@ca.ibm.com>
Hi Bjoern

Thank-you for your response.

The XSL and XML Query Working Groups discussed the response [1] and we 
confirmed that we do not wish to restrict elements in other namespaces. 
Therefore, the suggested text in the response was rejected.  However, we 
like to clarify that the enumerated list contains XHTML elements.  The 
quoted text now begins with "[Definition: The following XHTML elements 
have an EMPTY content model: ..." 

I would appreciate if you could check the next public draft of the 
specification when it becomes available, and verify that I've correctly 
applied this change, and that it resolves this issue to your satisfaction.



Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> 
Sent by: public-qt-comments-request@w3.org
03/08/05 02:54 PM

Joanne Tong/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
Re: [Serial] XHTML Serialization  (qt-2004Nov0025-02)

* Joanne Tong wrote:
>Thank you for submitting this comment.  The XSL and XML Query Working 
>Groups discussed the comment and have agreed that the text should be 
>modified.  We converged on agreement that the point of the rules about 
>minimized syntax is to maximize interoperability with legacy HTML 
>browsers. This goal can be achieved without addressing issues of which 
>or schema is being used, by simply listing the elements br, hr, and so 
> The new text is:
>[Definition: The following elements have an EMPTY content model: area, 
>base, br, col, hr, img, input, link, meta, basefont, frame, isindex, and 
>param.] Given an empty instance of an XHTML element whose content model 
>not EMPTY (for example, an empty title or paragraph) the serializer MUST 
>NOT use the minimized form.
>May I ask you to confirm that this response is acceptable to you?

This is better, but I think the text should note that that this applies
only to these elements in the http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml namespace and
be slightly rephrased. The current text could, in my opinion, still be
misread for e.g. XHTML family document types where additional elements
might have an empty content model. A better text would be

  The following elements in the http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml namespace
  are considered to have an EMPTY content model: area, base, br, col,
  hr, img, input, link, meta, basefont, frame, isindex, and param.

  For all other elements the serializer MUST NOT use the minimized form.

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