W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-publishing-sc@w3.org > August 2019

Fwd: Question about Educational content structure

From: Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:25:59 -0400
Message-ID: <CALhciFigUA5u59mrFkxRBHT=a=_RP8z3nMLkHUNeiYXTR+uS4g@mail.gmail.com>
To: "PBG Steering Committee (Public)" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
Thought I'd forward this because it is an example of somebody who needs Web
Publications. . . . And maybe the current Web is pretty darn close to
accommodating complex publications like this anyhow. . . .

There is more of this out there than we are aware of, I bet. And I bet WP
is not even on his radar, though he's reaching out to schema.org to address
an issue. There should be a standard way to accomplish what he (and plenty
of other folks) need to accomplish.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
Date: Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Question about Educational content structure
To: <public-schemaorg@w3.org>


The relationship you're after is probably not workExample, unless the video
is a representation of the same intellectual content as the textbook but in
a different medium.

If you consider the test and video to be part of the content of the
textbook, use hasPart. We're not paper-bound anymore so it's OK for videos
to be parts of books.
{ ...
  "@type": "TextBook",
  "hasPart" : {
    "@type": "Chapter",
    "hasPart": [
       { "@type": "Video" },
       {
        "@type": "CreativeWork",
        "learningResourceType": "Assessment"
       }
    ]
  }
}

If the Video and assessment are not parts of the textbook then (as far as
schema.org is concerned) they're just other stand-alone but linked
resources.

A couple of things you might be interested in are:

- K12OCX <https://k12ocx.github.io/k12ocx-specs/>, a spec for marking up
complex learning content such as courses (textbooks are similar)

- some ongoing efforts in LRMI <https://www.dublincore.org/about/lrmi/> to
define a concept scheme for learning resource types
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pTZd1AQMdh52otziC_s_-iE3JZOPHSVOP_6D7Bk247I/edit#heading=h.dbbp5570samf>
(sorry, you'll have to trawl the DC-LRMI Task Group mail archive
<https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=DC-LRMI> for discussions
about that and why we avoid terms like 'video' and 'text')

Phil (convenor of DCMI Learning Resource Metadata Initiative task group)
On 14/08/2019 11:06, Ghaulser Rigoti wrote:

I have a web site for educational content. Since we use Book type in the
home page and chapter in the pages, I would like to know the best way to
descrive the links of the page. Like: I have in the chapter page a link to
another webpage with exercises, another link to a youtube video, another
link to a podcast... all of those resources are in external sites. So, from
my page, how do I have to do the relation ship?

The json-ld for the pages are
{
  .
  .
  .
  "workExample":  [
    {
      "@type": "CreativeWork",
      "url": "www.example.com/exercise",
      "learningResourceType": "Test",
    },
    {
      "@type": "CreativeWork",
      "url": "www.example.com/video <http://www..example.com/video>",
      "learningResourceType": "Video"
    },
  ]
  .
  .
  .
}

Is it correct to do it in this way? Any Suggestion?

Regards

-- 

Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for
innovation in education technology.
PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning;
information systems for education.

CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in
England number OC399090
PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, number
SC569282.


-- 
*Bill Kasdorf*
*Principal, Kasdorf & Associates, LLC*

*Founding Partner, Publishing Technology Partners
<https://pubtechpartners.com/>*
kasdorf.bill@gmail.com
+1 734-904-6252

ISNI: http://isni.org/isni/0000000116490786
ORCiD: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-7002-4786
<https://orcid.org/0000-0001-7002-4786?lang=en>


<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon>
Virus-free.
www.avast.com
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link>
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Received on Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:26:57 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:26:58 UTC