FW: IDPF Guidelines page copyright

Dear SC,
 
We have a call on Friday and I was asked to find out about the Ace Knowledge
Base and its relation to the old IDPF guidelines.
 
Below is the thread on this. 
 
My opinion is that the AceKB is not any kind of infringement and we should
take down the old site and redirect to the maintained Ace KB.
 
Bill, do you want to weigh in?
 
 
Best
George
 
 
From: Matt Garrish [mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:48 PM
To: 'George Kerscher' <kerscher@montana.com>; 'Bill McCoy (W3C)'
<bmccoy@w3.org>
Cc: 'Avneesh Singh' <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: IDPF Guidelines page copyright
 
You might want to consider redirecting all traffic to the main menu of the
new kb site. There won't be 1:1 mappings for every page: some have been
consolidated, some are moved to a work-in-progress directory until they can
be updated, etc.
 
We could always put a temporary note at the of that page indicating that
these are the new guidelines and to update bookmarks.
 
A thought, at least.
 
Matt
 
From: George Kerscher [mailto:kerscher@montana.com] 
Sent: February 23, 2018 3:39 PM
To: 'Matt Garrish' <matt.garrish@gmail.com <mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com>
>; 'Bill McCoy (W3C)' <bmccoy@w3.org <mailto:bmccoy@w3.org> >
Cc: 'Avneesh Singh' <avneesh.sg@gmail.com <mailto:avneesh.sg@gmail.com> >
Subject: RE: IDPF Guidelines page copyright
 
Thank you Matt,
 
Bill, I believe that we can say that the old guidelines are not being
maintained and suggest that people go to the DAISY KB. 
 
So if we take the old guidelines down and redirect, how do people know this?
The alternative to a redirect is to take down the pages and say that the
pages have been removed and make the suggestion to go to the DAISY KB?
 
Best
George
 
 
From: Matt Garrish [mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:09 PM
To: 'George Kerscher' <kerscher@montana.com <mailto:kerscher@montana.com> >;
'Bill McCoy (W3C)' <bmccoy@w3.org <mailto:bmccoy@w3.org> >
Cc: 'Avneesh Singh' <avneesh.sg@gmail.com <mailto:avneesh.sg@gmail.com> >
Subject: RE: IDPF Guidelines page copyright
 
The new KB isn't a direct copy of the old site, if that's what you're
asking. There are going to be familiarities from old to new, of course, but
even in the parts I did try to keep (examples and explanation) I've been
adding, updating and simplifying for future use with web publications.
 
The new site is also a complete rethink of what information people want and
how they want it. Each page starts with a short summary of best practices
followed by a list of all the relevant WCAG techniques (to highlight that we
are aligned with W3C practices and not making things up on our own). The
lengthy explanations are pushed to the end for people who are looking for
more than a practical how-to guide.
 
Hope that helps clarify.
 
Matt
 
From: George Kerscher [mailto:kerscher@montana.com] 
Sent: February 23, 2018 1:24 PM
To: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com <mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com> >;
Bill McCoy (W3C) <bmccoy@w3.org <mailto:bmccoy@w3.org> >
Cc: Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com <mailto:avneesh.sg@gmail.com> >
Subject: IDPF Guidelines page copyright
 
Hi Matt and Bill,
 
On the PBG-SC call we discussed redirecting the old  accessibility
guidelines page to the Ace KB. We all thought this was a good idea, but we
have a few issues to sort out.
 
First, is our new KB site have any parts that were copied wholesale from the
old site? We know many of the ideas are the same, but really it is W3C
guidelines that are the basis for most everything.
 
Secondly, we would not want to say anything on the redirect or the old page
that implies the new KB is an update of those guidelines. My take is that
this KB simply replaces that guidance.
 
Bill, did I get that right?
 
Best
George
 
 
 
George Kerscher Ph.D.
-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.
Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium
http://www.daisy.org
Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech
http://www.benetech.org
President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) 
http://www.idpf.org
Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)
http://www.imls.gov
Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a division of the
W3C 
http://www.w3c.org/wai 
Phone: +1 406/549-4687
Cell:+1 406/544-2466 
Email: kerscher@montana.com <mailto:kerscher@montana.com>