Re: about the Nov events

In general I agree with Rick that the topics do not have to be strictly related to W3C only.
Our W3C group is a Business Group so I’d prefer not to have only very technical topics and presentation, but as we did in all the IDPF conferences at BEA possibly to have different tracks, some focused also on business and market oriented ones and addressing other parts of the value chain.

Best
Cristina



Il giorno 14/04/17 19:56 "Bill McCoy" <bmccoy@w3.org> ha scritto:

    And, not to harp on about this, we need to make sure that all the talk about new stuff doesn't undermine EPUB 3's market vector. While we don't want to make the Nov. event an "EPUB Summit" at some level I think we need to have enough EPUB 3 content to make it clear that EPUB is alive and while, not a cul de sac already being replaced by PWP/EPUB4 (even though at the same time we need to build excitement about that latter...).
    
    --Bill
    
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    From: Johnson, Rick [mailto:Rick.Johnson@ingramcontent.com] 
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    Subject: Re: about the Nov events
    
    In the “delving into topics that could be relevant but aren't necessarily focused on specific W3C work areas” vein of thought, we need to be careful that our first official program post-merger for the wider publishing audience does not confirm fears or stereotypes of what will happen now.  The publishing audience is going to want to know how the post-merger Publishing@W3C is going to help solve fundamental issues in the industry and the supply chain, not how we will create even more work by new application paradigms.
    
    Specifically, I’m thinking (and look for others to chime in) that the group being targeted is going to be wondering how Publishing@W3C is going to:
    - Help solve the specific format for a specific channel “tax”
    - Bring new rendering options to delight and engage users
    - Get the browsers to support such new rendering options
    - Reach new customers and markets
    - Go beyond the book
    - ….
    
    -Rick
     
    
    On 4/14/17, 9:48 AM, "Bill McCoy" <bmccoy@w3.org> wrote:
    
        Hi BillK,
        
        Just to be clear, in my fodder to Karen for the blurb the mentions of VR and
        IoT were semi-random, this was just in my mind a  placeholder for something
        where we would be hinting at (in the marketing pitch) and delivering on (in
        the content of the event) information about the many things going on around
        the Open Web Platform that promise to be relevant to publishing (in the
        broadest sense) that are NOT necessarily already on publishing folks radar
        (as, hopefully, Accessibility, Annotations, and Rights would be). I wasn't
        necessarily suggesting that VR and IoT deserved special treatment or even
        top billing. And I could imagine delving into topics that could be relevant
        but aren't necessarily focused on specific W3C work areas (for example how
        Progressive Web Apps are increasingly an alternative to having to develop
        native mobile and desktop apps on multiple platforms).
        
        So, I solicit comments about this from the SC.
        
        Re: acronyms, I guess my $.02 is that VR is established as a consumer term
        but IoT should be spelled out... but that's not based on any particular data
        just a gut feeling...
        
        --Bill
        
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        From: Bill Kasdorf [mailto:bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com] 
        Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 7:59 AM
        To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>; 'Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken'
        <tsiegman@wiley.com>; 'Dave Cramer' <dauwhe@gmail.com>
        Cc: 'Garth Conboy' <garth@google.com>; 'McCloy-Kelley, Liisa'
        <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>; 'Karen Myers' <karen@w3.org>; 'W3C
        Publishing Steering Committee' <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>; 'Karen Myers'
        <karen@w3.org>
        Subject: RE: about the Nov events
        
        I like the blurb--nice job. That, and your email, are both consistent with
        how I understood the event to be pitched.
        
        One copy question for the group: "other Web initiatives that will impact
        publishing from VR to Payments to IoT" picks sexy topics that will likely
        get people's attention, which may be exactly what we want to do. But from a
        practical point of view, things like Accessibility, Annotations, and POE
        (Rights) are of more practical interest and near-term use for most
        publishers than VR and IoT (I'd definitely keep Payments). Which pitch makes
        more sense for this? I can see arguments on both sides.
        
        --Bill K
        
        P.S. In my perpetual war against acronyms, I would point out that if we are
        trying to attract non-TPAC types, it would be better to spell out "Virtual
        Reality" and "Internet of Things" if we want to keep those two. I don't feel
        strongly about this because probably most people who will actually come will
        know what VR and IoT are. I just felt obligated to raise the point. ;) These
        are not as mystifying and exclusionary as A11y and I18n, which I would NEVER
        use in something going out to the general public.
        
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Bill McCoy [mailto:bmccoy@w3.org]
        Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:36 AM
        To: 'Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken'; 'Dave Cramer'
        Cc: 'Garth Conboy'; 'McCloy-Kelley, Liisa'; Bill Kasdorf; 'Karen Myers';
        'W3C Publishing Steering Committee'; 'Karen Myers'
        Subject: RE: about the Nov events
        
        I fully agree with Tzviya that we don't want people working on publishing at
        W3C to be in a silo.
        
        But with respect to the Publishing@W3C Summit (Nov 9 & AM of Nov 10), the
        idea is that this would NOT be expected to draw its attendees primarily from
        the typical W3C TPAC audience, but more like for example the last two EPUB
        Summits or historical IDPF conferences. Even W3C members might send
        different people to the Publishing@W3C Summit than they send to other TPAC
        activities. This is a bit different than the "Publishing Community Meeting"
        in Lisbon which was set up as a chance for IDPF members to engage in W3C and
        visa-versa.  But, in line with the consensus at the PBG SC meeting in
        London, we are NOT aiming for C-level executives (who it was agreed are
        unlikely to come to a W3C event in SF).
        
        So in some sense some, maybe most, attendees at this event - certainly those
        from non-members and even some from members who are not interested in the
        nitty-gritty of spec development - *will* be siloed from other TPAC
        activities, but that's because of the goal of the event to attract a broader
        audience and because the event is mainly just opportunistically co-located
        with TPAC due to the accident of having extra space at the venue. There will
        be a very minimal extra cost to attend for members attending other TPAC week
        events so we hopefully will get some synergies but that is not the main
        goal.
        
        Draft of "blurb" about the Publishing@W3C Summit follows, this is my input
        to Karen (cc:) and I was planning to send to this group after her
        editing/rewriting but she's on a business trip so it may shorten the loop if
        folks made comments/suggestions now.
        
        Thanks,
        
        --Bill
        
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        Logistics: The Publishing@W3C Summit 2017 will take place at the Hyatt
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        registration will open May 1, 2017. The Publishing@W3C Summit is open to the
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        From: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken [mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com]
        Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:01 AM
        To: Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com>
        Cc: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>; McCloy-Kelley, Liisa
        <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>; Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>; Bill
        Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>; Karen Myers <karen@w3.org>; W3C
        Publishing Steering Committee <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
        Subject: Re: about the Nov events
        
        I agree with Dave. While we want to make sure that there is publishing
        presence at TPAC, we also want to make sure that we don't silo ourselves off
        from other groups. It was a challenge last year to jump from the EPUB
        meetings to the ARIA meetings that I was supposed to be attending. Remote
        participation is essential for this community, especially the CG.
        Tzviya 
        
        Sent from my iPad
        
        > On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com> wrote:
        > 
        >> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Garth Conboy <garth@google.com> wrote:
        >> Re EPUB CG meeting... yes,, and Ivan pointed out that CG meetings are 
        >> generally just a couple of hours.  So, it seems that would be 
        >> potentially okay, overlapping with with Digital Publishing conference 
        >> (but not the Publishing WG or DPUB BG).  That's *if* we wanna have 
        >> that
        much Publishing!
        >> :-)
        > 
        > I want as many people as possible to participate in the community 
        > group, and having F2F meetings is an excellent way to limit 
        > participation to those with substantial amounts of time and money.
        > 
        > As it is, TPAC is going to be a huge problem for those of us who are 
        > in other working groups (CSS, HTML, WCAG, ARIA, etc.). If there are 
        > going to be future publishing summits co-located with TPAC, I'd urge 
        > that they be scheduled adjacent to rather than during TPAC.
        > 
        > Dave
        >

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