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Re: [PWG] Agenda 20181105

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 19:00:11 +0100
Cc: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <766E5011-8A58-488C-9BC6-0714412EB867@w3.org>
To: Joshua Pyle <jpyle@atypon.com>
I guess the telco has taken over:-)

I definitely prefer (very much so) the new terminology. Thanks for this.

Ivan

> On 19 Nov 2018, at 17:59, Joshua Pyle <jpyle@atypon.com <mailto:jpyle@atypon.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ivan,
> 
> Further to the above, I replaced the numbered tiers with:
> Minimal - These are the MVP requirements
> Extended - These are optional, general requirements beyond the MVP.
> Packaging - These are all the optional requirements that support packaging (PWPs)
> Customization - These are the optional requirements that support user customization (akin to those usually offered by an EPUB reader)
> 
> You can review the update here: https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/conformance-tiers/index.html#conformance-tiers <https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/conformance-tiers/index.html#conformance-tiers>
> 
> - Josh
> 
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:32 AM Joshua Pyle <jpyle@atypon.com <mailto:jpyle@atypon.com>> wrote:
> Thanks Ivan,
> 
> - I wasn't sure about the tier numbering either. Perhaps I was thinking about something like "First Class", "Second Class", "Third Class", etc. Hopefully, we'll come up with a solution that is more intuitive.
> 
> - I agree that #21 should be promoted. I'll do that now.
> 
> - We should discuss how many levels to have. I wound up with 4 primarily because all the requirements concerned with packaging got their own tier.
> 
> Curiously, it wasn't until I grouped the requirements into tiers that I noticed the absence of any related to accessing the TOC. There should be some, right?
> 
> - Josh
> 
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 5:15 AM Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org <mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote:
> Hi Josh,
> 
> overall, it sounds good, but I do have some minor comments from now:
> 
> - as a reader, I was a bit confused by your numbering scheme. It would have sounded more comprehensible (to me, and this is obviously a matter of taste) to call the MVP tier 1, and then go 'up' to 4, where 4 is the whole deal.
> 
> - we did list, for the MVP, the feature of the UA honoring the reading order in some, UA dependent way. It seems that #21 may be the one describing that; it should definitely go to the tier corresponding to MVP
> 
> - I am not sure we will need four tiers. My recollection from the discussion that we had, roughly:
> 
> 	- a set of features for the MVP described as "MUST"
> 	- a set of features still for the MVP but described as "SHOULD"
> 	- all the others
> 
>   But that is open for discussion…
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ivan
> 
>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 09:36, Joshua Pyle <jpyle@atypon.com <mailto:jpyle@atypon.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning!
>> 
>> The following branch includes my initial proposal for ranking the requirements. I noted that some folks weren't excited about the "MVP" concept. I really wasn't either. So (until we agree on something better), I ranked the requirements into 4 "Conformance Tiers" with each tier including more requirements. The lowest tier (4) is the MVP. Tier 1 is the bee's knees.
>> 
>> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/tree/conformance-tiers <https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/tree/conformance-tiers>
>> 
>> Speak to y'all soon,
>> Josh
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 1:18 PM Garth Conboy <garth@google.com <mailto:garth@google.com>> wrote:
>> Hello PWG-ers,
>> 
>> Below is the draft agenda for Monday’s WG conference call, to be held at the usual day and time [0].
>> 
>> We have switched from WebEx to GoToMeeting!  Here's the page for the new dial-in information <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/gotomeetings> [1].
>> 
>> If you are new to this group, learn the tricks on the newbie page <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/WorkMode/newbie> [2].  See also the Publishing WG home page <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/> [3].
>> 
>> Please let us know if you are able to scribe. Please join the call via GoToMeeting [1] and join IRC [13] for live chat & minutes (IRC channel #pwg).  
>> 
>> Agenda:
>> 
>> Approve F2F minutes [4] & [4.1]
>> TPAC memories
>> Potential PWG re-charter and foci going forward
>> Discussion of PWG Use Cases [Franco, Josh]
>> AOB
>> [0] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=PWG&iso=20181105T12&p1=43 <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=PWG&iso=20181105T12&p1=43>
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/gotomeetings <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/gotomeetings>
>> [2] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/WorkMode/newbie <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/WorkMode/newbie>
>> [3] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/ <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/>
>> [4] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2018/2018-10-22-pwg <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2018/2018-10-22-pwg>
>> [4.1] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2018/2018-10-23-pwg <https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2018/2018-10-23-pwg>
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>> -- 
>> Joshua Pyle
>> VP of Technology & Innovation
>> Atypon Systems, Inc.
>> 100 Corporate Parkway, Suite 175
>> Birmingham, Alabama 35242-8902
>> 205 447-9892
>> 
> 
> 
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> Ivan Herman, W3C 
> Publishing@W3C Technical Lead
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joshua Pyle
> VP of Technology & Innovation
> Atypon Systems, Inc.
> 100 Corporate Parkway, Suite 175
> Birmingham, Alabama 35242-8902
> 205 447-9892
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joshua Pyle
> VP of Technology & Innovation
> Atypon Systems, Inc.
> 100 Corporate Parkway, Suite 175
> Birmingham, Alabama 35242-8902
> 205 447-9892
> 


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Ivan Herman, W3C 
Publishing@W3C Technical Lead
Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ <http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/>
mobile: +31-641044153
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