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Re: Some important insights for getting EPUB 3 adopted in higher education

From: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 07:43:59 +0000
To: Rachel Comerford <rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>, Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
CC: PubWG <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D6D13314.DB240%laudrain@hachette-livre.fr>
We should add iBooks as a Reading System exposing the page list.
But it obviously also pertain to publisher to implement it in EPUBs.

For Hachette Livre, I have made it mandatory in EPUB3 Reflowable RFP.
BTW, thatís why I donít want the nav file on the spineÖ


De : Rachel Comerford <rachel.comerford@macmillan.com<mailto:rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>>
Date : jeudi 15 mars 2018 ŗ 14:35
ņ : Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com<mailto:avneesh.sg@gmail.com>>
Cc : PubWG <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Objet : Re: Fw: Some important insights for getting EPUB 3 adopted in higher education
Renvoyer - De : <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Renvoyer - Date : jeudi 15 mars 2018 ŗ 14:36

I also shared this with the task force at BISG focused on evangelizing epub.  There was some additional context provided in the IMS Accessibility ILN yesterday - schools are concerned beyond the textbook (which I am guilty of forgetting sometimes). The are also looking at OER resources and instructor created or sourced resources which are so often in PDF.

But the pagelist element isn't commonly enough exposed by reading systems (although I know VS, Readium, and ADE make use of it) so it's hard to tell if the issue is publishers not applying it reading systems not exposing it.

Rachel Comerford | Senior Director of Content Standards and Accessibility | T 212.576.9433

Macmillan Learning

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com<mailto:avneesh.sg@gmail.com>> wrote:
I had sent this email to EPUB 3 CG and publishing business group.
But, this information may also be useful for WP/PWP specifications development. So, forwarding it to this mailing list also.

With regards
From: Avneesh Singh
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 18:38
To: public-epub3@w3.org ; public-publishingbg@w3.org
Subject: Some important insights for getting EPUB 3 adopted in higher education

Dear EPUB 3 CG and Publishing BG,

Many of us are concerned about adoption of EPUB 3 family of specifications.
The following email thread provides some critical insights from higher education space, highlighting the issues that are blocking adoption of EPUB 3.

With regards
From: Deborah Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 23:28
To: Transition to accessible EPUB
Subject: RE: EPUB in Higher ED

I agree. I have had students request a PDF (Iím an alt media specialist) simply because it preserved the page numbers even when a more accessible option was preferred for courses where they didnít need exact page numbers.


From: transition-to-accessible-epub@lyris.dundee.net<mailto:transition-to-accessible-epub@lyris.dundee.net> [mailto:transition-to-accessible-epub@lyris.dundee.net<mailto:transition-to-accessible-epub@lyris.dundee.net>] On Behalf Of Richwine, Brian L
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:52 AM
To: Transition to accessible EPUB <transition-to-accessible-epub@mail.daisy.org<mailto:transition-to-accessible-epub@mail.daisy.org>>
Cc: 'George Kerscher' <georgek@benetech.org<mailto:georgek@benetech.org>>
Subject: RE: EPUB in Higher ED


The UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers provides alternate media and assistive technology to students at Indiana University. We believe that it is important for a student user to be able to navigate an EPUB file according to the original pagination and page numbers of a print book (where the instructors and other students could be referring to a print version).

In order for a student with disability to have equal access in terms of alternate media, they must be able to follow along with reading assignments according to the same syllabus given to other students, and able to follow along with in-class discussions in which the instructor and other students are likely to refer to readings by the page numbers in the original book. An EPUB file or reading system that lacks navigation by original print page numbers does not allow for this active participation without a significant expense of extra effort on the part of the student with disability.

  Brian Richwine

Manager, UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Centers, Indiana University
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From: transition-to-accessible-epub@lyris.dundee.net <transition-to-accessible-epub@lyris.dundee.net> On Behalf Of Joseph Polizzotto
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:03 PM
To: Transition to accessible EPUB <transition-to-accessible-epub@mail.daisy.org>
Cc: 'George Kerscher' <georgek@benetech.org>
Subject: EPUB in Higher ED

Hi Reading Sytems Group:

During our Reading Systems Testing conference call today, we discussed the transition to EPUB in the Higher Ed. Community. A few members of our Reading Systems group are in the Higher Ed community, and they mentioned a few issues that are perceived as roadblocks to EPUB adoption by their colleagues across the Higher Ed landscape. The issues that they brought up during our call today represented the following concerns:

∑         Lack of support for the Page-List Nav in popular reading systems

∑         Lack of access to popular study skills features (e.g., highlighting, annotations) in Vital Source Bookshelf when sideloading an EPUB
These representatives from Higher Ed mentioned that these issues are indeed important since they bear upon typical accommodation offerings to students in Higher Ed who request a reading system. These students often request that their textbook contain the print equivalent page numbers and that their reading system have study skills features.
To promote the adoption of EPUB as the standard for accessible publishing, these members of the Higher Ed community urge publishers to adhere to the EPUB accessibility standards, especially the inclusion of the Page-List Nav (if a print equivalent of the book is available). In addition, they encourage more innovation between publishers and typical AT providers, such as Kurzweil, so that students using these AT tools can have a seamless transition between use of their AT and access to the rich features available in EPUB 3.

Note: A member of our call today mentioned that these concerns had also been raised in popular listservs for disability professionals working in Higher Ed.


Joseph Polizzotto
HTCTU Instructor
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