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Re: chapter metadata in audiobooks

From: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 00:12:16 +0000
To: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
CC: "Dugas, Ben" <ben.dugas@rakuten.com>, W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <6FE1CB2F-010A-4C31-A5C6-F9CF052B3FD2@adobe.com>
Interesting, Charles – I hadn’t considered that construction…

It seems to imply that we need some sort of infrastructure that defines “logical groupings” of resources...at least for the application of metadata that is consistent for that grouping.

From: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 5:07 PM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Cc: "Dugas, Ben" <ben.dugas@rakuten.com>, W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: chapter metadata in audiobooks

Hi Leonard,
I have seen publications that have multiple resources making up a single chapter so I don’t think we can assume one chapter is a single resource.  Now if we can associated multiple resources in a single chapter and provide the metadata to reflect that, then we are good.


Thanks
EOM

Charles LaPierre
Technical Lead, DIAGRAM and Born Accessible
E-mail: charlesl@benetech.org<mailto:charlesl@benetech.org>
Twitter: @CLaPierreA11Y
Skype: charles_lapierre
Phone: 650-600-3301


On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> wrote:

I don’t know what a “chapter” is in a web publication – since they are used for all sorts of publications – but *if* we were assume that each of these “chapters” is a resource, then why isn’t this metadata just associated with the resource using standard methods for doing so (eg. schema.org<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fschema.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C230ed5512c1540c7017f08d505228aaa%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636420568278295551&sdata=pto3S8w1MLp2d5ccabYTRlHpYUV2MQIbJOxBsM02IG8%3D&reserved=0>, XMP, EXIF, etc.)??

Leonard

From: "Dugas, Ben" <ben.dugas@rakuten.com<mailto:ben.dugas@rakuten.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 2:41 PM
To: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Subject: chapter metadata in audiobooks
Resent-From: <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Resent-Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 2:41 PM

Hello all,

The following caught my attention. As you may or not know Kobo recently launched audiobooks and I’m sure we’d benefit as much as anyone in the long run from better standards for audio products particularly with regards to chapter metadata (Jeff and I share the same dream). I’m all ears if there’s a role for a retailer like Kobo to play here be it suggestions, review or testing.

George Kerscher: “Reading through the minutes - I didn’t see any mention of audio publishers in the discussion. Generally the audio publishers are some of the less technical people. They are great with the audio products, and very talented, but from a tech perspective they need help. Perhaps we could engage the audio publishers that are already part of W3C publishing group. hachette, random house audio, etc…
Jeff Printy: I am interested in this aspect, my dearest wish is for Audible books to have chapter metadata
George Kerscher: I could take an action item to get in touch with a key person in each of those houses.
Luc Audrain: +1
Tzviya Siegman: That would be great.
Lillian Sullam: I’d be happy to help also (from PRH side)
Luc Audrain: I can be the contact for hachette livre. and I can find a contact for the group in NY.
Cheers,
Ben Dugas,

Manager, Content Display Quality and Production

Toronto, Canada (GMT-5)

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