RE: definition of Web Publication

We come back to the question of how this is different from a Web site.

Tzviya Siegman
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From: Leonard Rosenthol [mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:54 PM
To: Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>; public-publ-wg@w3.org
Cc: Greg Albers <GAlbers@getty.edu>
Subject: Re: definition of Web Publication

Greg had an excellent point about curation, so let me try to add that in using a term that we’ve been trying out here (so feedback on that welcome too)

A Web Publication (WP) is an intentionally curated collection of one or more Web resources organized together through a manifest and presented to users using Open Web Platform technologies.

There were some other things in the suggestion that I didn’t take and I’d like to explain

  *   “bound” vs. organized:  The word bound, to me, feels more like packaging – and so I think we should avoid it for now.  But it’s a good word for when we get to PWP
  *   “uniquely identifiable grouping”: As we have discussed, identification of a WP is a separate issue so that doesn’t belong in the definition
  *   “reading order”: Having this in the manifest definition, I saw no need to duplicate it in the WP definition.

Leonard

From: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 1:34 PM
To: Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org<mailto:laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>>, "public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>" <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: definition of Web Publication
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 1:34 PM

Laurent - good rewrites, but let me play with it a bit…

Do we really need the middle sentence? It doesn’t say anything useful (IMO).   The first and third, however are good.   We can then put it all together as:

A Web Publication (WP) is a collection of one or more Web resources organized together through a manifest and presented to users using Open Web Platform technologies.

Now to apply some simplification to the Manifest definition:

A manifest is structured information about a Web Publication, such as informative metadata and the default reading order of its primary constituents.

I’m not thrilled with that since it’s still not clear to me if we want all that stuff (metadata + resources + reading order + ….) in a single “manifest” *or* we will end up with multiple ones (but even then, it may still conceptually be a manifest).

Thoughts?

Leonard

From: Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org<mailto:laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>>
Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 11:38 AM
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Cc: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: definition of Web Publication
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 11:38 AM

The current definition is facing a large set of comments. From these comments, I tried a variant of Matt's proposal:

A Web Publication (WP) is a collection of one or more Web resources organized together through a manifest. The content of a Web Publication can take a wide variety of forms, from formal artistic and intellectual works to ad hoc documents and memos. Web Publications are presented to end-users using Open Web Platform technologies.

A manifest is the structured information necessary for the proper identification and description of a Web Publication, plus the default reading order of its primary constituents.

Laurent